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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No. I never talk like that - online or at home. It is vicious, crude and un-Christilike. I am a Christian. But this is who you guys are and this is how you communicate. Sad! The scary part is: none of you are convicted of it! None of you apologize. You justify it!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I've told you before, and I will tell you again, please do not talk on behalf of posttribbers. You do not seem to know what they believe. Let them talk for themselves. Most I know believe that Daniel's 70th week is historic. It is already fulfilled. 1. Where is a tribulation mentioned in Daniel...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Who said "without sign nor warning"?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Don't even go there. It is unreal the venemous verbal abuse that Posttribbers endure here. It is brutal and vicious how you (and your Pretrib friends) communicate with Posttribers. You guys show no mercy and no grace. You are ruthless and unrelenting. I exempt Doug from these comments. Even...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes, avoiding your faulty unscriptural charts is my MO. Amen!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This sums up the crude disrespectful and demeaning ad hominem that exemplifies the approach of most Pretribbers here when they notice they have no response to God's Book.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You are fighting with the Greek to fit your beliefs. Firstly, this is undoubtedly the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ – the end – it has absolutely nothing to do with delaying the days. Secondly, the King James Version interprets the passage correctly and in context: “chronos ouketi...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You're misunderstanding of Matthew 24 is causing you to get confused. I've already addressed this several times with you, and as usual, you have avoided. I will repeat: End-Time Great Tribulation Centred Upon Earthly Jerusalem??? You are looking to the wrong Jerusalem. I don’t believe that the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Your chronological approach to Revelation has already been shown to be nonsensical. It does not work from many angles. Anyway, where is your rapture Revelation before your protracted tribulation period?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It is very simple what this is saying to the unindoctrinated mind. This is the end. It is over. We are not into eternity. There are no survivors. You are unable to show survivors here. This coming is not only sudden but noisy. Christ is not coming secretly with an apologetic whisper but...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The Bible teaches a general resurrection. The resurrection/judgment are tied together. It obviously takes one to allow the other. For there to be one general judgment then Scripture must also teach one general resurrection. This I believe Scripture does in several places. Daniel 12:1-3 reveals...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I think you think if you keep repeating a theory then it makes it a fact. That is not the way it works. Scripture overrides your own personal opinion. Look at what Scripture teaches and you will see Premil cannot be. The second coming is "the end" (telos). Premils have no difficulty with the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    If you would actually read what we are writing then you would get it. But you will not. That is your own problem, not ours. Amils believe in what the Bible teaches: one final future coming of Christ which occurs after the tribulation and before the final wrath of God. It is not hard to grasp.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Name calling and avoidance is all you have now.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Avoidance, ad hominem and twisting what the text says, is all Pretrib have. 1 Thessalonians 4:14-5:9 declares: “if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is about as much as we are going to get from Pretribbers. I understand the frustration of not having any hard Scripture to bring to the table to prove your doctrine, but cryptic evasive posts and personal attacks do not inhance your argument, they expose it. It you had biblical support...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No. You simply do not get it. I am not Interested in charts. I go by the Word. You cannot bring any conclusive biblical support to the table. That sinks your doctrine. No Pretrib can rebut the Op. That shows it is watertight.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Not so! rab 1) much, many, great (adjective) 1a) much 1b) many 1c) abounding in 1d) more numerous than 1e) abundant, enough 1f) great 1g) strong 1h) greater than 1i) much, exceedingly
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That is not true. You are playing cryptic games.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Your charts are a joke and your math is a joke. All this from a man that is incapable of presenting one single Scripture to support a rapture of the Church followed by a tribulation followed by another coming. Your doctrine is in ruins tonight. It is time to embrace the truth. You are pushing...