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  1. Marty fox

    a non-eschatological Coming?

    Hi Randy did I see post#78?
  2. Marty fox

    a non-eschatological Coming?

    Why do you think that I don't believe in a literal second coming I do I have never said that I don't?
  3. Marty fox

    a non-eschatological Coming?

    Why do you think that I don't believe in a literal second coming I do I have never said that I don't?
  4. Marty fox

    a non-eschatological Coming?

    Regardless Daniel 7:13 clearly states that Jesus is going to heave not to the earth as He approaches the ancient of days (the Father) and entered into His presence. The Kingdom established on the earth is Jesus and the Holy Spirit living inside of us while we are on the earth. I believe that...
  5. Marty fox

    a non-eschatological Coming?

    Actually Daniel 7 says that Jesus is going to heaven on the clouds not coming to the earth. Daniel 7:13-14 13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He...
  6. Marty fox

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Yes is it symbolic for the church?
  7. Marty fox

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    So would you say that the walls of the new Jerusalem are actually 144 cubics think? Why not 143 or 145 cubics think? The number is symbolic I mean would the new Jerusalem even need a wall?
  8. Marty fox

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    There are many times in the bible that numbers aren't literal but meaning many. If it said actual people or males or females. Its the message of the text that counts all it does is call them servants of the Lamb and that they are sealed with Gods protection from His wrath. It doesn't say...
  9. Marty fox

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Yes 12 tribes times the 12 apostles equals 144 and 1000 meaning many just like the walls in the New Jerusalem are 144 cubics thick why is the number always 144?
  10. Marty fox

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The tribe of Dan is replaced by the tribe of manessah Dan was called a serpent
  11. Marty fox

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Thanks again But it is disputable because its not actually the 12 tribes
  12. Marty fox

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Thanks. That's what I'm getting at if "it's wife makes herself ready" is of feminine gender and the wife or the bride is the church (and the church is made up of males and females) then the 144 000 although comes as mescaline gender in the Greek then the 144 000 could easily include females
  13. Marty fox

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Good to hear Revelation 19:7 Let us rejoice and be glad and give him glory! For the wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready.
  14. Marty fox

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Thanks so out of curiosity what is the Koine Greek for the bride of the Lamb? How I look at scripture text is that all scriptures of actually a message from God thats how I read the text
  15. Marty fox

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    But we need to stick to the message over a translation and the message is of a pure (virgin) innocent church. We are made pure and innocent through Jesus We the church have no problem being called the bride of the Lamb but that doesn't mean that we are women.
  16. Marty fox

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Where does the bible say the 144 000 are men?
  17. Marty fox

    Are we the third temple?

    There are lots of different times of 3 1/2 years in the bible thats why they are named differently ex 1260 days, 42 months, 3 1/2 years time, times, and half a time The antichrist is a deceiving spirt more than one and have already been on the earth just as John says below in the only verses in...
  18. Marty fox

    Are we the third temple?

    So does revelation mention the term antichrist or even an antichrist or anyone standing in a third temple? No it doesn’t. John is the only writer in the bible to mention the term antichrist and John wrote his epistles and revelation and didn’t use the term antichrist once in revelation. Read...
  19. Marty fox

    Are we the third temple?

    Our bodies are the third temple and no the bible doesn’t say anything about the antichrist standing in a literal temple. The man of sin isn’t the antichrist and revelation says nothing about the antichrist standing in a literal temple and actually revelation doesn’t even mention the term...