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  1. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Read the entire 2 Peter chapter 3 and you will see that it’s talking about the second coming
  2. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    I never said that we don’t reign with Him for 1000 years I said it not with Him on the earth. We are in the thousand years now it symbolic for the church age
  3. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    You only showed half of the text 2 Peter 3:3-9 3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the...
  4. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    But Peter says that when Jesus comes He with destroy the world with fire
  5. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    So is it only the beheaded that rise?
  6. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Amen Christians who always take a literal meaning over a symbolic interpretation take away from the message which was meant to be given.
  7. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Amen yes God allows people free choice and gives them grace if that doesn’t prove that God reigns over all then nothing will.
  8. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Again you are posting verses but none that say that we reign with Christ on earth for 1000 years. Of course we don’t reign without Him you keep claiming that I think or say things that I don’t. We reign with Him spiritually in heaven and on earth but not one biblical verse in the bible says...
  9. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Yes it does not actually say “we” but we have been raised with Christ as Paul teaches Colossians 3:1 3 Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God You see we died to Christ spiritually and He raised us...
  10. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Yes we reign on the earth but that verse doesn't mention Jesus on the earth so once again there isn't a verse in the bible that mentions us reigning with Jesus on the earth for 1000 years. If He does reign with us on the earth for 1000 years would the bible mention something as important as that...
  11. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Maybe you misunderstand me if you read my recent post on the last few pages of this thread you will see what i'm saying. Of Couse Jesus is God and the messiah and reigns. Once again Revelation 20:4 says that "we live and reign with Christ for 1000 years" yes we do but once again it says...
  12. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    I'm not debating that we reign with him I'm debating that we reign with him on the earth which the verse that you just provided doesn't say.
  13. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Keep reading to the end of revelation 16 and then read the last 4 verses of revelation 17 and you will see who destroys babylon the great but God puts it into their hearts for His purpose. I agree John is only in the spirit in heaven just like revelation 4 says I don't think that Jesus takes...
  14. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    So once again where does the bible say that we reign with Jesus for 1000 years on the earth? You keep making statements but not providing scripters to support your claim that the bible says that we reign with Jesus for 1000 years on the earth. I keep asking but nobody can produce it
  15. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    I believe that we reign now spiritually in heaven and on earth
  16. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Where do you see Jesus showing up on the earth at Armageddon? The battle at Armageddon is in revelation chapter 16 when the beast destroys Babylon the great not in revelation chapter 19 when Jesus defeats the beast as Armageddon is not even mentioned in revelation chapter 19 . I never demanded...
  17. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Revelation 20:4 says nothing about us and Jesus reigning on the earth. You said in post #702 that the bible says that Jesus and the saints reign on the earth for 1000 years and it doesn’t say that. We reign with Jesus now not after He returns just like Paul teaches in Roman’s 5:17 So I don’t...
  18. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    You still haven’t provided one scripture saying that We reign with Jesus or even Jesus reigns on the earth for 1000 years. That’s all I am asking No Jesus reigns now. Revelation 3:14 These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation Romans 5:17 “For...
  19. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    We need to look to spiritual over physical as physical is perishable but spiritual is everlasting and so much greater. The Jewish nation had it wrong and the Jews looked to a physical kingdom by the messiah but God had a greater plan and Jesus brought a spiritual kingdom. I believe many...
  20. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    But that ruling is not what amils think our reigning is spiritual and Jesus ruling with the rod of iron is what Paul teaches judgement of angels and people in 1 Corinthians 6:2-3 Or do you not know that the Lord’s people will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not...