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Why are you guys so bitter and frustrated? Obviously, you have no answers to the biblical points been presented. Talk about attacking the messenger when you cannot attack his message. This is a classic case!

Well how long is your trib? Stop avoiding? This question obviously gets you uncomfortable for some reason.

Does Jesus have 5 or 10 brides in your estimation? Do you have to be a female virgin to make the rapture? Do you have to have a literal lamp burning with oil at the actual moment Jesus comes to perform your Pretrib rapture?

God preserves His people through tribulation and He rescues them from the final wrath. That is what the Bible teaches!

Regardless of you you're misunderstanding of the 50-50 teaching, what are the 5 virgins left to?

More avoidance!

I agree.

The Oxford Dictionary defines a gift as: "a thing given or received without payment." We can't purchase it, we can't earn it, we don't deserve it, we cannot work for it. We just receive it. So what it that gift? Romans 6:23 says: "the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."...

Titus 2 is simply revealing the general call. That is it! Your quoting of the NIV here is troubling. That is normally done when someone knows a normal translation does not support their argument. That is just my observation. Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared...

More avoidance! Does Jesus have 5 or 10 brides in your estimation? Do you have to be a female virgin to make the rapture? Do you have to have a literal lamp burning with oil at the actual moment Jesus comes to perform your Pretrib rapture?

You already admitted that there's no mention of the Church, tribulation, a second coming, a rapture or a third coming in that passage. You have nothing therefore. You seem to make it up as you go. That may impress your base, it it will not impress the objective Bible student.

You sound so embittered and frustrated. You are sinking lower and lower in your ad hominem. It is now belittling and slander. This is where Pretrib loves operating. Are you not convicted?

What are these guys on? Are they for real? The amount of unmitigated nonsense that comes out of them is unbelievable.

Well how long is your trib? Stop avoiding? Is this a dirty little secret?

Revelation 6:12-16 relates to the final destruction described in Isaiah 34 to the appearance of the Lord at the second coming, where the wicked finally receive their reward. The sixth seal says, “And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun...

LOL. This is becoming totally ridiculous. What has that to do with some imaginary future 7 year trib? Where does it mention 7 years? Where does it mention tribulation? You could literally make the Bible say whatever you want with this type of absurd ad-hoc hermeneutics. This is becoming laughable.

You obviously cannot handle the clear scriptural passages in the Word that teach a climatic coming of Jesus. That is why you constantly duck around what is presented. This is a widespread pattern with Pretribbers on forums like this. The onlooker can see that for himself. It only serves to...

So, you have nothing? Like I thought!

Answer the questions and desist from lies, ad hominem and avoidance. Can you show us one single Scripture that describes (1) a rapture of the Church, (2) immediately followed by a literal seven-year tribulation, (3) immediately followed by a 3rd coming of Christ?

Nothing + nothing = nothing. You are doing more to promote Posttrib than I can do. Your constant avoidance and ad hominem exposes the impotence and error of Pretrib.