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1. The Body of Christ - in the highest on the Lord`s own throne. (Rev. 3: 21) 2. OT saints in the City, the New Jerusalem. (Heb. 11: 16) 3. Israel ruling over the nations on the earth. (Rev. 21: 24)

I believe it is God`s word that we first go to. Yes there are Christian teachers who have thought that Dan. 7 beasts were historic, however there are other great teachers who believe they are contemporary to our day. I will start a thread of this topic soon and we can discuss more there if you...

Hi covenantee, Well we are having a very interesting discussion on two topics. I appreciate it as we both have to look into God`s word with what we believe and also check out what the other is saying. Let me ask you - `Do you see Dan. 7`s beasts as historic or contemporary? Next - We would...

yes Rome certainly did that but not to Babylon and Medes and Persian rulers if you are looking to those 4 beasts to be historic. Christ only became High priest when He fulfilled all the requirements of the justice of God. How could Christ intercede before He had made Himself the sacrifice and...

And that is part of the timeline of God`s purposes which as yet have not come to fulfillment.

`After this i saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong. it had huge iron teeth; it was devouring, breaking in pieces, and trampling the residue with its feet.` (Dan. 7: 7) Obviously it can`t be Rome doing this. `This hope we have as an...

If people believe that the terrifying beastly kingdom is Rome then it is shown that that beast treads down the other beasts. (Dan. 7: 7) Which then shows that it can`t be Rome for the first two beasts (their rulership) would not around in Rome`s time. Yes we believe that Jesus is the...

The book of Daniel is to show that Christ is King of the Ages: He knows, He planned and He will fulfill all His purposes for Israel and the nations as foretold in the prophecies of Daniel. And if you read further on in God`s word we read of the Romans in Luke 2: 1, revealing God certainly knows...

yes history shows that Rome took over from Greece. However Rome could not have trodden down Babylon or the Medes and Persian as that rulership was long gone, judged by God. Thus those 4 beastly kingdom/Federations of Dan. 7 are contemporary to when the Lord sets up His rulership on earth through...

However we do not see the Romans `devouring, breaking in pieces and trampling` (Dan. 7: 7) the Babylonians or the Medes & Persians. Those empires were well gone by the time Rome came to power. God judged them all. Those 4 world rulers have all come , been judged and are no more. However we do...

Actually Marty, the context tells us that it is in the future. 1. All the beasts are contemporary as the final beast treads down the others. (Dan. 7: 7) 2. Thus they are all great powers but NOT world Rulers. (Dan. 7: 4 - 7) 3. They are in the time of the Lord setting up His rulership through...

Hi Marty, The 4th beast of Dan.7 is the power over the other beasts (Lion/Eagle, bear & Leopard). It becomes a composite Global Government as shown in Rev. 13 - - Lion, Bear & Leopard with the terrifying kingdom/Federation of 10 crowned horns/political powers, over them. In contemporary...

I agree, as God`s word tells us.

Those scenes are future for the Lord has not as yet moved to His own throne. He is still on the Father`s throne. (Heb. 1: 1 - 3) The Father is bringing the nations (enemies) to His Son`s footstool, (Ps. 110: 2) while the Son is building up and maturing His Body. (Eph. 4: 13) When the Lord, the...

Actually the Great Image is the times of the Gentiles ruling the world. And they are still doing that today. It is an overview of the great world rulers that God said would rule the world, and one is yet to come to full power.

I agree He is already slain. Those details are to show the Lord`s credentials for receiving the judgment scroll - the right to execute the judgments therein. Remember that the Father said to the Son, `Sit at my right hand till I make your enemies your footstool.` (Ps. 110: 1) And that has been...

Hi Marty, Dan. 7 13 - 14 matches with Rev. 5:6 - 10 the investiture of the Son of Man with the Kingdom. This is future. Dan. 7: 13 & 14 `1 was watching in the night visions and behold, one like the Son of Man, coming on the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought Him...

I believe what God word says regarding -the Body of Christ, Israel and the nations. (1 Cor. 10: 32)

Yes God said there is the Church, He also said give no offence to the Greeks, (Gentiles) and the Jews. (1 Cor. 10: 32) Luke as well as the other gospels are written in relationship to Israel as the Body of Christ had not as yet been revealed. (Eph. 3: 1 - 7)