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This is the deception. This is the mantra of the half-truth found in the half-gospel. And many will be deceived. Every person who was in the wilderness was saved...from Egypt. But these people were once saved....but they were saved in order to be tested in the wilderness...to learn to trust...

The gifting is to put us in a higher race of faith. We are given a higher race WITH a higher calling based on a new spiritual birth. So the stakes have been raised all around. But the same challenges are present. Few made it to the promised land...just as few will enter into the kingdom of God...

The half-gospel...that seeks to avoid paying the price of a crucified life...IS the false gospel. So you have it exactly backwards. You have not taken the upside down nature of the kingdom of God into consideration. Few do.

The half-gospel is made to be easily understood...with ego intact, pride intact, and every other false consideration untouched. And the people loved to have it so.

The first part of the gospel is easy to understand...saved from the condemnation of the world..entering into a new life with a new heart. But things usually go downhill from there...with false ministries seducing people away from God's intent towards a chimera and the drawing of false...

This is completely religious and fully unaware of the nature of the gospel. Jesus died for the sins of the whole world to win back His creation. this is nothing personal towards the church per se. Jesus is building in a spiritual place...not here in this world. There is SO much deception based...

Ah...the whole body argument. We are talking about the spiritual nature of the church...which is the pillar and ground of THE truth. Not a religious opinion and organization about an aspect of the truth. The conundrum for the human mind to grasp is this...WE are here physically in the world...

So far from the truth. We are born again into a wilderness walk. There are two barriers to cross over. The first qualifies us to be God's people. But God meets us in the wilderness to try us and prepare us for holiness. But FEW indeed are in that race because of the half-gospel...that...

We were never called to build churches. Jesus said "I will build MY church." So what are we building? We are to make disciples. But do we know what that looks like? Or are we so religious that we are unable to see beyond the physical world? The gospel, the kingdom and the church are spiritual...

The gospel of today is but a half-gospel...taken from the bible...but not in complete form. There is a saved from...and a saved to. Saved from the world (Egypt)...to be saved to the kingdom walk (the Promised land). But people are taught that there is but one step into salvation...the saved...

Agreed. God will send us to another church so that we see the human pattern of beliefs. We can let go of a previous error by seeing that there are somay ways to get it wrong. Will we then turn to God? Or will we accept the new form of error and latch onto that in the same way we did last time...

Most people arrive at a certain system of beliefs because they are exposed to it from other people. It takes a VERY educated and open minded person to remain open doctrinally in order to see that what has been taught is just one way of seeing things. It would seem that few indeed will remain...

yes...the inner man is our weak central person that Jesus came to save. We put on Christ (the new man) as our strength by entering INTO Him. Also called the armour of light. To be strong in Christ means we need to put off the power of the flesh...the old man..first. When we are weak then God...

Whoever believes to where Jesus is (in Zion) ...has the same life He does...the eternal kind. Deep theology indeed. :)

You are speaking of a bible religion. The letter kills but the Spirit gives life. I'm speaking of a spiritual walk in Zion...a resurrection life kingdom walk. Look up some old preachers and you may find some reference to that.

How is one to know when they are seated in a heavenly place? How is one to know when God is pleased? How is one to know when someone is healed? How is someone to know when the dead are raised? Is it all just a philosophical belief?

This positional error is the basis of Western arrogance and presumption. One must experience the cross in Spirit and truth (for real) to reap the benefits of the life that the cross brings out in the follower of Christ. One does not appropriate a true spiritual accomplishment by a philosophical...

Sorry to hear of this Mike. Praying for you both.

Jesus is one essence with the Father. Jesus came out of the Father. Jesus is revealed as the "word" from the OT...Yahveh or Jehovah. The "word" which IS God to us...and God WITH us. The Father is the Most High. God in the Son became one with His creation...thus allowing us to be part of God's...

Jordan Peterson is an anomaly. He does the hard things without a lot of support...even hostility...from his colleagues. He is an honest man and righteous in his way. He lives his life as if there is a God. A lot of believers don't even have that kind of integrity anymore. He is an important...