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  1. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Yes, God could have made the angels to then assist with creation. What are all these heavenly beings doing? Houtos means this. This (God’s word) was with God in the beginning. Not the pronoun ‘he’ referring to a non-existent person...
  2. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    In Trinityland, God can have a God?! Right Mr Trinity (@face2face)? More proof text Jesus is NOT God. (No verse states God the Father has a God).
  3. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Yes, Jesus is our brother, which explains why he taught us to pray to God as he did, to our Father. Only siblings share a father. Also, it is telling that Jesus did not teach us to pray to a trinitarian god. Why would that be?
  4. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    How could Jesus be the firstborn of all creation AND not be created, along with the rest of Creation?
  5. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Agency cannot be a thing to trinitarianism.
  6. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Angels are included in the meaning of Elohim. Who was God talking to when he said to make us? It could be the Angels.
  7. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    there is no there there. Scripture says he is a man, which means by definition, he is not divine.
  8. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The significance of the expression "are one" is extreme eisegesis for it exists today with the same meaning, on the same page. It never meant a multi-person being. Everyone is many things, including Jesus. However, what is NOT is he is NOT God. The proof text is the word "OF" in relationship...
  9. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Nursing his bruised ego?
  10. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Not really. Sometimes, things are as they appear. That angels ONLY appear to us looking like us is good prima facia evidence that were made made in the same image. Compare to the contrary. Imagine if Scripture ONLY reveals angels appearing to look like things other than man. What would you say...
  11. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Concisely put. Subordination of the revealed words of God to manmade creeds. Any trinitarian rebuttal?
  12. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Then why do Trinitarians make it seem as though the trinity is the central message of Scripture?
  13. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    What verse says one’s salvation depends on believing Jesus is God?
  14. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Exactly right! I’ve said it many times. A man being obedient to YHWH to the point of death for the purposes of taking away the sins of the world THEN be resurrected, fulfilling prophecy AND proof of our inheritance is ripe with the most profound theological significance. By contrast, God...
  15. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The irony is per Deut 18:15-18, YHWH selected a man among the people of Israel so they could have a better relationship with their God without being terrified of being in his overwhelming presence. In response to this loving, level setting action, Trinitarians put this God chosen mediator back...
  16. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I doubt he’ll concede anything - too prideful.
  17. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Great verse! Because of dualism, trinitarians take on Hebrews 4:15 is Yabut he couldn’t sin. He was in. Yabut he was out. He was up. Yabut he was down. He was wet. Yabut he was dry. He was dead. Yabut only part of him. What’s odd about this is the draw the line with their IDOL. The trinity...
  18. Wrangler

    Liberal Justice Sonia Sotomayor Looking Bad At The Inaguration, She's 70 Now And A Type 1 Childhood Diabetic?

    I heard she was pressured to retire so Biden could nominate her replacement. Staunchly opposed, she's unwittingly set up Trump for the privilege. While we are on the subject, Thomas and Alito, big time Conservatives, are getting up there.
  19. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I consider Arianism to be a kind of pejorative as it is more specific than an honest categorization of the debate which is trinitarianism v unitarianism.
  20. Wrangler

    Franklin Graham: Trump needs our prayers

    Yes, pride in our God given, Christian nation.