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  1. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    I guess God would have to actually say 144 Jewish men. Women can defile themselves with women too If there are only 144000 then why wouldn’t God put the seal of protection on the other Christians? Sometimes we shouldn’t assume and also have too consider what the bible doesn’t actually say
  2. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    So can women defile themselves with women? It’s the same with the 144 cubics size of the walls in the New Jerusalem. It’s no coincidence that it’s 144 and not 143 or 145 why do you think it’s 144 cubics?
  3. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    There are many who believe it was written before 70AD I have books with many Christian writers writing about it and have seen debates about it but nobody can prove when it was written and nobody outside of the bible have biblical authority. I go by history and the purpose of revelation
  4. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    And yet Paul more than once says that it was It was the known Roman world Paul and Jesus were talking about
  5. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    And their are many scholars who believe it was written before 70AD as well. I go buy what the purpose of Revelation is and history
  6. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    See post number 31 Jerusalem was still called the Holy because God was still residing in the temple and Josephus tells us that He vacated the temple shortly before it was destroyed
  7. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    So is everything a coincidence? Nero’s name matching 666 Rome the beast destroying Jerusalem Babylon the great for Gods purpose? Revelation was written to 7 literal church’s of what was soon to take place because the time was near. It wasn’t written to us 2000 years later. Jesus even confirms...
  8. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    I’ll take Paul’s biblical words over yours. My point is that Jesus and Paul used the same words and history proved them and my interpretation to be right. I am using the scriptures and history to back my belief and it’s not symbolic in this case. So you believe that when I use symbolism I’m...
  9. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    Or was it? Mt 24:14 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. This shows that the disciples were asking about the end of the temple sacrificial age as the whole world was preached to before 70AD . Paul says...
  10. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    Or was it? Mt 24:14 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. This shows that the disciples were asking about the end of the temple sacrificial age as the whole world was preached to before 70AD . Paul says...
  11. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    That is one view but many disagree as nobody actually knows when it was written
  12. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    I was showing that the bible is at times symbolic see post #18 So do you think that the Egyptians hearts actually melted or is that a symbolic description of total fear? In revelation chapter 19 does Jesus slay people with a sword coming out of His mouth or is the sword symbolic for His word...
  13. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    Because People think that it is 12000 male virgin Jewish men from each tribe of Israel who take the gospel to the world when the bible doesn’t say that at all. First it’s not even the 12 tribes of Israel because the tribe of Dan is replaced with the tribe of Manasseh. This is because Dan was...
  14. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    Because Peter said it was in his days and Joel talks about any army described as locus with lions teeth (referenced in revelation 9) attacking Jerusalem. Then Jerusalem was destroyed shortly after Peter said that in those days. That’s not a coincidence it’s symbolic prophecy fulfilled
  15. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    They didn't recognize Jesus to be the Messiah because He also claimed to be God. They didn't put the two together I didn't say that all of revelation was symbolic its just the most symbolic book in a symbolic bible for example was the verses below symbolic or literal Isiah 19:1 A prophecy...
  16. Marty fox

    Postmillenial Partial Preterism...What is it? A Victorious View of the Gospel.

    Did you read what I wrote your post just confirmed that I was right? They are waiting for a Messiah but they don't realize that He was actually God too. They don't believe in the trinity this is why Jesus said the words below in Matthew 22 Whose Son Is the Messiah? 41 While the Pharisees were...
  17. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    One thing you are doing wrong here is thinking that the bible was written to us today when it’s not. It was written for us but not to us. We need to read each book of the bible standing in the shoes or sandals of the people they were written too. John’s audience would of understood the...
  18. Marty fox

    Postmillenial Partial Preterism...What is it? A Victorious View of the Gospel.

    The Jews aren’t waiting for a messiah who is god they don’t put the two together that’s why they rejected Jesus. He wasn’t sentenced to death form claiming to be the messiah He was put to death for claiming to be god
  19. Marty fox

    Postmillenial Partial Preterism...What is it? A Victorious View of the Gospel.

    Answers in order The judgement on Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple age Same answer as above The current symbolic thousand years and the White throne judgement The kingdom is now No Jesus doesn’t have to be physically on the earth to reign No rebuilt temple Jerusalem was...
  20. Marty fox

    Partial preterisims and revelation chapter by chapter part 1

    How do you know when revelation was written? Do you realize that the symbolism in Revelation is tied to and explained to many different parts in the Old Testament? It’s the revelation of Jesus Christ as in who he is and what He did. Jesus is God and He ushered in the new covenant that what...