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What does this prove? Please answer a simple question that no Pretrib can seem to answer: where in Scripture teaches (1) a rapture of the Church, (2) immediately followed by a literal seven-year tribulation, (3) immediately followed by a further coming of Christ?

Not at all. This text does not say what you want it to say. Jesus and the New Testament remove any ambiguity on the subject. He shows that the day Noah went into the ark the flood came and all the wicked were destroyed. That is what is going to happen when Jesus comes. Jesus said in Luke...

How many survived the flood?

You keep saying this but cannot bring any concrete Scripture to prove that.

A Jew today in God’s eyes is not physical but spiritual. Paul succinctly says, “he is a Jew, which is one inwardly.” Those that are born again, irrespective of nationality or color, are classed as true Jews. Paul further reinforces his argument in Philippians 3:3, speaking of the Church...

Not true! Jesus is the HEART of the Christian Bible and Jesus is the God of nations.

Exactly! Their whole reasoning on this key passage is fanciful and illogical. I suspect they know that, thus their careful and consistent avoidance of it.

No Pretribber will address my simple query. That is because their reasoning is nonsensical. Can you give me another example in Scripture of such a decapitation of a harmonious time-period - like where God says 7 days and He didn't mean a linear, congruent and sequential 7 days, or 7 years and...

The only one you are exposing is yourself. You continually do that because you cannot refute the counter arguments. That is becoming very clear.

Can you stick to the scriptural arguments instead of constantly defaulting to ad hominem? Please address: Daniel 9 Pretribbers butcher Daniel 9. If Pretrib was in Daniel 9 you would have presented it before now. The fact is: it is not! The burden of proof is with you! You presented Daniel 9 as...

So, you base your theology on a private theory that is not expressly taught in Scripture. This sums up Pretrib. Where does the prophets, Jesus or the NT teach this? Nowhere! Where does the Bible teach "there will be two raptures" because "the fig tree has two harvests"? This doesn't make...

I am trying to keep this on the issues. It is impossible with you. Your posts are full of ad hominem. You make claim after claim and are unable to support it with actual relevant Scripture. I understand that this is frustrating. But you have chosen to identify with Pretrib and promote it. It is...

No wonder you abandoned Postrib, if this influenced your decision. I have already refuted this. You had no answer to what I submitted. This is a sandy foundation to build your beliefs on. The Church is described as the “saints” in Revelation 5:8, 8:3, 8:4, 11:18, 13:7, 13:10, 14:12, 15:3, 16:6...

You state all these things as fact as the basis of your argument yet you do not (or cannot) prove them. Where in Daniel 9 or anywhere else in Scripture does it teach a "7 year peace covenant"? This is a Pretrib invention that does not exist in reality. Not knowing the day and the hour does...

Does your mum know you are online?

Address my biblical arguments above (if you can) and stop your pettiness. Remember, people are watching on. You do not advance anything by constantly avoiding and insulting.

I have asked for Scripture, but you have failed to provide that. This is becoming a pattern. You do not seem to appreciate being pressed to support your claims with hard Scripture. I wonder why? Can I remind you; this is a Bible discussion forum? It is normal and reasonable to ask people to...

Yah-de-daa-de-daa! Here we go! When you cannot attack the message attack the messenger. And you wonder why so many today are abandoning this belief. If you had a rebuttal for each text and argument you would doubtless give it. If you were on solid ground you would not resort to such infantile...

So, you admit you have no Scripture that says the rapture is "imminent" and you have nothing to prove that "there is no scripture or prophecies that needs fulfilled before He returns for His bride"? Agreed! This is a false teaching perpetrated by Pretrib writers who are foisting man-made Jesuits...

It is you that is hurling insults. You cannot seem to help it. I understand your frustration, but it does not advance your argument. It rather exposes it. You cannot even address my contextual argument re Revelation 3:10. That speaks volumes as to your position. Please address what I wrote and...