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Can I remind you, the dead in Christ are in heaven now around the throne of God? Since Christ's first resurrection, sin has been defeated, death has been defeated, Satan has been defeated. Therefore, the redeemed go into the immediate presence of Jesus upon death. Do you reject such an orthodox...

Can you give me another example in Scripture of such a decapitation of a harmonious time-period - like where God says 7 days and He didn't mean a linear, congruent and sequential 7 days, or 7 years and He didn't mean a linear, congruent and sequential 7 years, or 70 years and He didn't mean a...

You are forcing all this into the sacred text, where it does not exist. That is classic Pretrib. You have already conceded that there is no mention of the Church, a rapture or a 7-year trib here. This is called adding unto Scripture, and is forbidden by the Holy Spirit.

You are gerrymandering Scripture to fit what you have been taught. You basically admit that there is no mention of the Church, a rapture or a 7-year trib here. You force it into the text to support Pretrib. It is same with every other passage Pretribbers present. It doesn't say what they claim...

You are dodging multiple posts that forbid Pretrib. Pretribs cannot address these because they are watertight. The only reason I repeat arguments is because it is impossible to get Pretribbers to address the biblical evidence that forbids their arguments. Why would i reinvent the wheel. Why...

Like I thought: you do not have a Pretrib rapture in Revelation. You force it in there. It is therefore pointless asking for your 2nd invented rapture, because you don't even have a 1st. You obviously cannot find your 7-year trib in Revelation either. This is looking bad for your doctrine. You...

Agree! Look at the amount of Scripture, arguments and questions they duck around. They cannot even support their sweeping claims with hard Scripture. They seem to imagine, claiming a thing is evidence. The onlooker can judge for themselves what is true and what is nonsense. It is so obvious...

Bro, this sums up Pretrib. It is a concoction of extra-biblical theories that are foisted upon the sacred text. Scripture is manipulated to mean whatever Pretribbers want it to say. Sad!

But this is the end. There is no tribulation following it. It is the end of the world.

Where is your future rapture of the Church in Revelation? Where is your 7-year-trib? Where is your 3rd coming in Revelation? Where is your 2nd rapture in Revelation?

1. Where is there any mention of the Church in Daniel 9. 2. Where is a tribulation mentioned in Daniel 9? 3. Where is a 7-year tribulation mentioned in Daniel 9? 4. Where is the rapture mentioned in Daniel 9? 5. Where is a 3rd coming mentioned in Daniel 9? 6. Where in Daniel 9 does it tell us to...

Talk about gibberish. You seem to be making it up as you go. It is pointless asking you to prove this in the sacred pages because you know, and we know, it is derived from your Left Behind mentors.

The Greek word parousia appears 24 times in the New Testament. It is rendered “coming” in 22 passages and “presence” in 2. The word can be interpreted coming, arrival or presence and simply expresses in the Greek what it implies in the English. The word parousia is mostly applied in Scripture to...

Not true! The Church is described as the “saints” in Revelation 5:8, 8:3, 8:4, 11:18, 13:7, 13:10, 14:12, 15:3, 16:6, 17:6, 19:8 and 20:9. The New Testament uses the term “saint” some 59 times, repeatedly describing Christians who walk in newness of life. The objective Bible student can...

Where is your Scripture in Revelation to support this?

How long then is your great trib?

Not only do you not have anything in the Old Testament, you obviously have nothing in the New Testament either. 1 Corinthians 15:50-55 has nothing to do with what you are claiming. It declares, “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption...

Instead of making sweeping statements like this: give us hard Scripture that teaches a rapture of the Church here followed by your supposed 7-yr tribulation. It sounds like more private interpretation to me.

Where does it say that in the Bible (i am not talking about the Left Behind novels)?

Yes, when He comes for us. Tribulation (or survival) is always depicted before His deliverance.