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  1. BreadOfLife

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    You have everlasting life as long as you endure in faith. If that bothers you - take it up with God . . . (Matt. 7:19-23, Matt. 10:22, Matt. 24:13, Matt. 25:31–46, John 15:1-6, Rom. 11:22, 1 Cor. 4:4, 1 Cor. 9:27, 1 Cor. 10:12, 1 Tim. 4:1, 1 Tim. 4:16, 2 Tim. 2:12, Heb. 3:6, Heb. 3:12-14, Heb...
  2. BreadOfLife

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    WRONG agai. It says, they received "Epignosis". This word is ONLY used 15 times in the Bible - and it ALWAYS means the same thing: "Full, experiential and relational knowledge" - and NOT simply an intellectual knowledge.
  3. BreadOfLife

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    "Full, experiential and relational knowledge." This is the definition of Epignosis. It's NOT just a passing fancy.
  4. BreadOfLife

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    Eainstein - the "Greek" IS the Bible. The NT was written in Greek, which was the lingua franca of the 1st century in case you didn't know. As for the rest of your rant - you're simply going off-topic because you LOST this argument. Now - either get back on topic or go bother someone else with...
  5. BreadOfLife

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    WRONG. You HAVE to take the words used in these verses seriously. Epignosis doesn't mean what you WANT it to mean. It means much more. However, that destroys your position, so you'll just "overlook" it. Really? In English or in the original language? There's not a linguist or biblical...
  6. BreadOfLife

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    It's a rudimantary definition - which simply means "basic". The treatises I resented were FAR more in depth. And once again - it's irrelevant as to whether or not I have respect for these scholars. They are world-reknowned linguistic scholars who are quotes by some of the most world-renowned...
  7. BreadOfLife

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    The original Greek LANGUAGE, in context. Had you been paying attention to the conversation - you would have known that this is what we were talking about (Greek vs. English). But context has never been something YOU pay much attention to . . .
  8. BreadOfLife

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    WRONG. As I have shown repeatedly - the very word, "Epignosis" already connotes that the person had FAITH. This is the FOURTH time I have had to present this scholarly linguistic evidence - so pay attention: Richard Chenevix Trench “In comparing epignosis with gnosis, the “epi” must be...
  9. BreadOfLife

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    No - a person who falls away no longer has everlasting life. If somebody gave me a brand new car - it's a gift and it's mine. HOWEVER - if I wreck that car - then I no longer have a beautifaul car. Similarly, Paul speaks of those who make a "shipwreck of their faith" (1 Tim. 1:19). It's not...
  10. BreadOfLife

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    There is NO English equivalent for the Greek word "Epignosis", as I AMPLY showed in my last post. It is explained over and over again in the scholarly evdence I presented in post #632. You can either deal with this evidence - or live in denial of it. Another example of this would be in Luke...
  11. BreadOfLife

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    And NOBODY said that Greek is a "preference" of the Holy Spirit. HOWEVER, there are many words in other languages (like Greek) that do NOT have an English equivalent. "Epigosis" is one of those words, as I AMPLY showed by scholarly evidence in my last post (#632). To deny this fact is to...
  12. BreadOfLife

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    NEITHER of these verses make the claim that Christians can't sin. DOING the will of God is a condition - and its NOT a condition that we're in 100% of the time. Many times we succumb to our own will - and THAT'S why James tld his born again readers to "CONFESS your sins. " And when we sin...
  13. BreadOfLife

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    And therein lies your problem. "Using" the Bible when you have NO idea what it is saying is a dangerous thing. You can't siply reject the original languages used just because you preper the English translation. That's not how a serious student of Scripture approaches the Word of God. It's the...
  14. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    Said the guy who is ignorant of ALL things Catholic . . . All they did was invent new doctrines and perpetually-splintering sects . . . And if you keep repeating that - it becomes true for you. PROVING this, however, is quite another kettle of fish . . .
  15. BreadOfLife

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    Bone up on your Greek - THEN get back to me so we can have an intelligent conversation . . .
  16. BreadOfLife

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    Ummmmm, then you MIGHT want to talk to all of the Protestants that I've been debating for the last few days who HAVE tried to use this passage as a proof for OSAS. But, the plain linguistic fact is that whether or not somebody tries to use it as a proof is irrelevant. On its own - it is a...
  17. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    The Catholic Church. It certainly isn't any sect that came 1500 years later. If you're going to try and say that it's NOT the true Church because there are sinful people IN it - we were warned that there would be sinful peple IN the Church by Jesus (Matt. 7:15-20, 13:24-43) . He Himself...
  18. BreadOfLife

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    Corrupt? There are corrupt people in every ecclesial community because man has a fallen nature. Rich? I already told you where the money goes. The LARGEST charitable organization on the planet - more than most nations. Oh, I almost forgot - ummm, "lol" . . .
  19. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    You mean your own invented doctrines . . .
  20. BreadOfLife

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    No - you only trust an English-speaking God. The inspired NT was written in Greek . . .