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No, what I have been telling you does not even fit the definition of Preterism beliefs. I have been referring to matters of the kingdom and of God, as without time, and only matters of men and this world as dated, or as Paul said it, "but each one in his own order."

That answers the first question of why you look for a greater tribulation to come than was put on Christ although it is written "nor shall ever be" after the sum total of all tribulations were put upon Him. So, thank you, you have stated the crux of the problem. But what "system" do you refer...

I do believe the scriptures, but what is in error is not the words that are written, but what you and many have believed the words mean. This is why I have said repeatedly that you do not understand. In which case, I will ask you: Have you not perceived that down through the ages what is written...

I suggest then that you ask yourself, "Knowing that all tribulations--the sum of all tribulations past, present, and future have been put upon Christ already, why do you look for it yet to come?" Or do you not want to hear anything but what you already believe, even if you are wrong? If so...

So...this is the rub: That you do not believe Jesus to be God. If that is true (that you do not believe Him to be God), then what you have said regarding translations being corrupted, would apply to you, for it is you who are relying upon a translation. But I am not. What I have been telling...

I am not sure what you meant by that first sentence, or what your point is. I was simply making the point that if "birds of the air eating flesh" is a sign--it is not only future, but began at the beginning shortly after creation.

No, but you do not understand. Certainly "there are no survivors" as you say, but it is the timing that you do not have correct. The passage sets the time at the time of Christ, which is at the cross and the victory of Christ. Meaning those "left behind" (the "rest" or "remnant") are those who...

So much for giving you a clue about the [actual] timing. How about this one: Revelation 19:17-18 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the midst of heaven, “Come and gather together for the [a]supper of the great God, 18...

The thorn in Paul's flesh may have been any number of things, but spiritually was a shadow of all who are alive in the spirit and remain in sinful flesh and in the world until natural death. Which is to say that all of us being left in sinful flesh are left to struggle with sin even after we...

No birds have ever eaten men's flesh yet? :oops:

And...when should it be said that birds began to eat the flesh of the dead?

I did answer, but it is as I said..."You misunderstand." The point is not the lesser tribulations that kill and make all flesh extinct, but rather "all" those same lesser tribulations put upon Christ making it the greatest "tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world...

No, that is a dodge by changing the subject. But again, those who are sent are indeed not God, but rather it is the Holy Spirit (God) who speaks through them. Your argument is not valid, for that is not at all how these things work. It is written rather that even "Christ Jesus, who, being in...

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

You're guessing.

And you--you are off the Christmas list.

You don't understand, and you are not listening. I did not say this was mine or anyone's "interpretation." I said it was by the spirit of God. That means this is not a discussion. Agreement is not required. But I will address your comments. "Lineage" in the passage is clarified as not being...

I like it...but even Jesus called the Pharisees vipers and hypocrites. The reason I started this thread is because there is a very fine line between righteous harsh words and those unrighteous. I thought we should understand that love and even tough love are to be expected, but rather that it...

You misunderstand. There is only One person--only One who is alive, only One who is begotten...in whom all live or die--the living and the dead.

No, but only if it is my opinion, is it my opinion. But you know the scriptures and know better, that it is not those who are sent who speak, but the Holy Spirit. So, no, I have not added, but you have taken away insisting that it is opinion.