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    25 reasons why you should abandon Premillennialism

    (12) Because these thousand years cannot be found anywhere else in Scripture, apart from the highly symbolic Revelation 20, Premil is forced to insert a thousand years in text after text where it doesn't exist, belong or fit. That is not right, and is called adding unto Scripture. Objective...
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    25 reasons why you should abandon Premillennialism

    (7) Premillennialists ignore the tenses in the original Greek in order to sustain their teaching. That is because the tenses expose Premil. For example, Scripture shows that Jesus is reigning now over creation, His people and all His enemies. It is shown to be in the present ongoing tense. Most...
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    25 reasons why you should abandon Premillennialism

    I want to list some of the issues that forced me to eventually abandon Premillennialism and embrace Amillennialism. My main reason for abandoning Premil was the severe lack of corroboration. I had a major issue with that! What is more: I had multiple problem-texts as a Premillennialist that...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    You are totally missing the point! How can you in all seriousness argue that billions of ungodly religious phonies who have abode in the presence of the glorified Christ and the glorified saints, and have showed themselves to be the most deluded religious actors in history, stubbornly and...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    You are not addressing the Scriptures/arguments I presented. I have showed you clear Scripture which shows that the bondage of corruption is banished from creation when Jesus comes. You have not acknowledged that. This forbids the Premil scenario. Are you suggesting that these billions of...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    How can billions of ungodly religious phonies (who stubbornly and relentlessly feign allegiance to Christ during your millennium) not sin and die for 1000 years and then at the first sight of their master Satan rise up in rebellion against Jesus and the Church? Where does it teach this? Sadly...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Your 2 proof texts, and the comments you apply to these in your posts, totally contradict each other. This is common in Premil. Zechariah 14 doesn't even correlate or support any on the main tenants of Revelation 20. In one post you are falsely depicting a perfect environment in your supposed...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    No. You explain away a multitude of clear and explicit passages by your misunderstanding of Zechariah 14 and Revelation 20 . You seem to be obsessed with these two passages. You view the rest of Scripture through the lens of your opinion of these. That may explain why you cannot grasp the Amil...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    There is a lot of this does not add up. So, who is this 3rd group that you are too wicked to be caught up and too righteous to be destroyed? Where does it teach that there is a group from "The rest of the world, who had been alienated from the Gospel" that "continue on the earth after Jesus'...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    If you would cut out your ad hominem (and unwise boastings) maybe more people would take your posts serious. This does nothing to advance Premil. Most of the rest of us are here to discuss Scripture. It might be more profitable if you would go there.
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    No. I have asked posters many varying questions over the years on such forums. Many posters do that. Most posters oblige when I ask questions and at least try to answer them. What is wrong with that? These were simple relevant legitimate inoffensive questions pertaining to what you said. And no...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    No, you are not! You impute evil motives upon those who disagree with you. That is unfair. You are not a heart reader! If you do not want to be challenged you should stop pushing Premil and not be on a discussion forum.
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    As I have said many times: your mantra is: what saith Zechariah 14 and Revelation 20? Amils take the opposite approach; they interpret Zechariah 14 and Revelation 20 in the light of the rest of Scripture. They ask in the words of Romans 4:3: "For what saith the Scripture?" The Bible teaches us...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    You always seem to resort to ad hominem when your argument is exposed. You obviously have something to hide if you cannot address simple points that challenge your thesis. The reader can see that for themselves.
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    No, you have not! Quite the opposite! You know where I am going. That is why you duck around these simple questions. You avoid them because to answer them honestly would expose Premil.
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Again, you are imposing a Premil understanding on what "deceive the nations no more" looks like. You then try to employ that skewed thinking to rubbish Amil. That is unwise and unfair. This is the main eschatological impairment that you suffer from. You cannot think outside of the Premil box...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    God does not mention "Christian nations" in either the OT or the NT. That is your own invention. Scripture describes the NT Church as a spiritual nation. This is the only entity that carries His favor and blessing. This is God's only chosen people. Every invented Christian nation you present...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Instead of rubbishing and avoiding some of the core Premil facts i present re your rerun of this age in a future age after the second coming, please address these simple questions that prove my thesis: When is sin finally and eternally eliminated? When is disease finally and eternally...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    It is pointless discussing anything with you over the years. You hurl multiple false charges against Amil by twisting its beliefs. You have to! You cannot help but look at Amil through a Premil lense. You consequently impose faulty Premil modes of understanding on Amil. That is why you are...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    It is the scale and gravity of the rebellion that will intensify in Satan's little season (which corresponds with the releasing of the restraint on the mystery of lawlessness) before the second coming. It is the overt global resistance of the great commission by governments and mankind in...