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  1. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Saw this and thought of you.
  2. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The problem with your trinitarian logic already is legion. "From" God is proof Jesus is NOT God. Also, you are invoking circular reasoning in stating something I never heard before, that Jesus is a "Messenger" from God. This is a word meaning angel and is nowhere in Scripture. So, you cannot...
  3. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Not really responsive to the fact that the trinity is not in the Bible.
  4. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    A is A. Angel is Angel. And Jesus and the Holy Spirit are not angels.
  5. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    1st, “Seed” is a natural process of fertilization. I think we have to concede this event is of supernatural origin, which means the miraculous HOW is beyond our understanding. 2nd, the text cannot make sense if the Father is not Jesus’ father. In person, his glory is too much too behold for...
  6. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Logic is not personal. It either is or is not contradictory.
  7. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    It's contrary to logic - no matter what grade. P1. There is a 3 person committee that makes up the whole. P2. One person on this committee is fully the whole. C. 3 = 1.
  8. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Not in metaphysical identity. The difference MAY BE in context of a reference only of more than one existent. For instance, A lion is a lion but the lion who we killed last night was not the lion that had killed the local resident. Your whole premise is ridiculous on its face. The trinity is...
  9. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Until the rest of us came along. All first borns are the only begotten - until the next child comes along. Here is another contradiction. We are all children of God and there is only one child of God.
  10. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The definition does not matter. Whatever it is, A is A. In addition, Jesus is not an angel. We know this by 2 means. In Hebrews, it says Jesus is above the angels. Regarding your particular ploy of the Angel of the Lord, observe Luke 2:9 Suddenly, an angel of the Lord appeared among them, and...
  11. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Jesus did not say he was a bread of life literally in one place but figuratively in another place. We'll have to leave it discerning the word correctly, confusing literal and figurative language. I rest on the fact that the trinity is not in the Bible as well as the ABC's and 123's of making...
  12. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Words have meaning! A is A. Most certainly an angel is an angel. If words don’t have meaning, there is also no basis to support the trinity.
  13. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    We are all children of God. John 1:12. The only reason Acts 3:13 calls Jesus a servant of God is because he is another being serving the Supreme Being.
  14. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Then you have no business advocating it as true. I understand the trinity and it is anti-Scriptural. Get that? Not only is it (the concept) not in Scripture, it goes against Scripture says.
  15. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Appeal to Strawman. Reducing the argument to semantics. I said the trinity is not in the Bible. I did not say the word “trinity” is not in the Bible.
  16. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Articles don’t modify nouns. A computer v the computer. Not a non-computer.
  17. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Reading comprehension. The dog of the highlands is dog. The cat of the plains is still a cat. Only in trinity land does a prepositional phrase alter the noun.
  18. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Already forgot about the angel, who you are saying is also God?
  19. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    LOL. Only if someone has special motivation would they deny A is A; deny an angel is an angel.
  20. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Belief not founded on Scripture.