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  1. Episkopos

    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    It may have something to do with it being in Greek...the language that the letters were being written in? :)
  2. Episkopos

    The Power Of His Ressurection

    Yes. The standard of Christ...as lofty as that may appear...will remain. The bible...that oft twisted record of God's will for mankind...will be vindicated in the lives of His faithful. I'm not claiming to be among the great ones who have defended the truth in the past and present. But in the...
  3. Episkopos

    The Power Of His Ressurection

    This is a public forum. People teach things on here that are based on things they have been programmed to believe...like the evangelistic hypnotic and dogmatic approach to the bible...or have read in some book by a religious theorist. But this must be held up to a proper scrutiny. Especially...
  4. Episkopos

    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    You are half-way there! :) At least you didn't claim to not lack humility. That's a start. :rolleyes:
  5. Episkopos

    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    I don't bear false witness...but you do towards me. Again you do as you accuse others of. Why can't you see your own lack? Why are you so proud? The privileged generation that cannot be corrected. Unteachable...lacking any fear. Jude speaks of this generation.
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    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    As the early apostles died off...and even in their lifetimes...we see divisions entering the church. Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp of Smyrna (among others) sought to keep the unity of the faith. What we lack today are men such as these. Men like Luther brought in those...
  7. Episkopos

    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    The bible books were selected by church fathers...later ones. Bishops at that. How do you allow for that? Do you think the bible is a divine book dropped directly from heaven?
  8. Episkopos

    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    Spoken from the shallow end of the pool... Why have you no humility or fear of the Lord? I'm not saying this for you to make another superficial quip...but to think it out.
  9. Episkopos

    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    The irony in all the foolishness of this thread and the position of the OP is that if you want to limit God to one book...at least show the respect to that book to learn the languages used in that book. The superficial mutterings of a person who arrogantly makes claims from...
  10. Episkopos

    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    Bible literacy to you is not only stupid...it is meaningless to your purpose.
  11. Episkopos

    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    That's a re-direct. You can't possibly defend a position that allows NO intervention from God that doesn't have a chapter and verse. So you must obfuscate and invert the logic to deflect truth away. John says that ALL the books in the world cannot contain the works and words of Jesus. The silly...
  12. Episkopos

    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    Just like the Greek alphabet comes from the ancient Hebrew...so does the terminology of God and His attributes. So you need to understand the Hebrew idea more than the Greek if you want to really know of what you are speaking of. The new testament doesn't stand without the old. Jesus came to...
  13. Episkopos

    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    It isn't the early church fathers that brought division...it is men like Luther who re-interpreted the bible with a carnal understanding and thus opened up the interpretation of the bible to whatever feels good to the reader. One day the whole reformation will be seen for what it is...a great...
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    The Power Of His Ressurection

    You are speaking of a carnal healing. Of course...because you are not understanding actual resurrection life. If you understood this you would be speaking, not of carnal things, but of spiritual life and power...say...to walk as Jesus walked...without any trace or spot of sin. Not to say that...
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    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    Does this not reveal the deadness of the religion you espouse? Do you think the Spirit is limited to what is written in the bible? Can you be told to tarry only in Jerusalem? Can't God articulate speech patterns that are unknown to the bible? If you live in a city not mentioned in the...
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    The kingdom of God is like...

    ...a treasure hidden in a field. “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and hid; and for joy over it he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field." We tend to mix up or separate the treasure with the field the treasure is found in. But we...
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    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    Logically...the bible was put together in the form we see today by bishops from 300 AD. The OP here is criticizing Bishops from before 100 AD. IOW...if there was no good judgment among church fathers in the past...we would not have such a reliable witness to the truth today. it's all about...
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    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    Instead of taking the bible as a reliable witness of the truth ABOUT God....in modern times it has been raised up as an idol...as something that replaces God and His Spirit. Speaking anything against the bible is now seen as blasphemy...as if the bible itself was divine.....as if it was a god in...
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    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    While the ECF are not to be taken quite on the same level as the bible itself. Yet, there is much to glean from their writings. One would be ignorant and foolish to ignore their council. But then that's where we are today...arrogant to the point of not heeding wise council. What would be more...
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    Parable of the Ten Virgins

    Whatever branch even that is in Christ that does not bear fruit is cut off..... All this is made very clear by Jesus Himself. John 15 15 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he...