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  1. Episkopos

    Stumbling Block verses

    This doesn't mean that God has the greater sin...does it? (If one thinks it was God that put Jesus on the cross) How far above was it? So then this shows my point. That he who turned over Jesus did so in sin...not by the will of God...although God permitted it because of His divine strategy...
  2. Episkopos

    Stumbling Block verses

    Never said he did. But will you deny that Jesus shed His blood here on earth under the dominion of Satan? Do you deny that Jesus really died? (bodily speaking of course) I see...as usual...a quick response without taking the trouble to look up what I spoke of. And people wonder why I ignore...
  3. Episkopos

    Stumbling Block verses Part 2

    I am hoping that people will see the verse I am posting as being from the bible. it isn't hard to read the bible. The difficulty is to understand it. And once a person gets the wrong idea...the error follows more error...just as the truth follows more truth. Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For by grace are...
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    Stumbling Block verses

    Have you ever heard of martyrs? Is God not pleased that people remain His witnesses unto death? Is it death that repels you? Or glory? Who kills (sacrifices) martyrs? God? The devil? Do you know? All this is true. Tactically true. But you are missing the strategy of God behind all this...
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    Stumbling Block verses

    The statement made that created thousands of denominations. Can you say...Babel!? Understanding comes from the Spirit and comparing spiritual things with spiritual things. It can get easy...if one is honest. But self-interest is the primary motivation behind most of modern "exegesis." We have...
  6. Episkopos

    The Gospel Is Heavenly Wisdom

    Actually heavenly power being proclaimed and entered into by faith. How else can God's people overcome the world...certainly not in their own strength.
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    Stumbling Block verses

    In the real world I posted this thread based on a misappropriation of the meaning of a text...turning the truth of God into a lie. I used actual bible verses....just go back to the beginning of this thread to see if those verses are still there. I also showed how people get the verses wrong...
  8. Episkopos

    Stumbling Block verses

    For they who would want to better understand God's ways...and not remain ignorant of the devil and his ways... A lesson in logic... Does God love righteousness? Yes Does God love His only Son? Yes Is God well pleased with His Son? Yes Does God hate the world? No. God is love Is God angry...
  9. Episkopos

    Stumbling Block verses

    I am trying to reason with your ideas....not scripture. I can't use scripture because you have been indoctrinated to believe a lie from the bible. (although it is only by a deviated interpretation that you support your position) And if I post Hebrew...where the truth is laid out plainly...you...
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    Stumbling Block verses

    So we see by the responses of some here how Jesus can become a stumbling block. People stumble over the truth to believe the lie that the devil whispers in the ears of they who don't understand God's ways. God is very drastic...so revolutionary that it fries the brain cells of they that try to...
  11. Episkopos

    Stumbling Block verses

    Did Jesus come to shelter us from a wrathful God...as in..."For God so was angry at the world?" God is love. Does God hate His Son and the works of His Son? Or did Jesus come to reconcile us with the Father. A loving Father....not a wrathful one. So either Jesus is protecting us against an...
  12. Episkopos

    Stumbling Block verses

    You are simply missing the grandiose nature of the plan of God in opting for a religious formula that you think makes sense...because you believe it makes sense. But there is no sense at all to it. You are being scandalized by the extreme nature of God's ways. So you will become offended by the...
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    Stumbling Block verses

    The Father allowed His Son to die as an offering to the evil of this world...to show it for what it was...evil. God came to us in the weakness of the flesh...and the evil powers took advantage of that...just as God foresaw. To think that God poured out His wrath on His Son for the sins of the...
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    Stumbling Block verses

    “You search the Scriptures, for in them YOU THINK you have eternal life; and these [scriptures] are they WHICH TESTIFY OF ME. 40 But you are not willing TO COME TO ME THAT YOU MAY HAVE *LIFE.*!!!” John 5:39 Why is dogma seen as a fundamental but not life from above through the Spirit? Because...
  15. Episkopos

    "precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:" For what?

    God's word is a snare for the religious carnal mind. But these can't discern that....that's what is so amazing about it. His word cuts through what is of God and what isn't...without people realizing that by trying to interpret the bible for themselves...THEY are themselves being interpreted...
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    Stumbling Block verses

    This is how the truth gets inverted into becoming a religious dogmatic belief system...that disparages God. Fundamentally wrong you should say about your own reasoning. Fundamentally misguided and carnal you should realize. So who persecutes righteousness? God is righteous and He loves...
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    Stumbling Block verses

    You are believing the lie of what is called penal substitution. God does not destroy righteousness..the devil does. And it was indeed the devil that demanded the blood of Jesus....which was freely given. If you know of a man called Job...where the devil was permitted to hurt him but not to take...
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    Stumbling Block verses

    The power of the blood is the resurrection life of Jesus. But..."pleading the blood of Jesus"...??? I think that is a church thing...a religious tradition. Can one plead the life of Jesus?
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    Stumbling Block verses

    I have stated that it is not our business to appropriate the spilled blood of Christ. That is a transaction between Power (God's )and powers (principalities). These things are way above our pay grade, so to speak. Our faith is to be placed in Christ...in His life. His resurrection life. As...
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    Stumbling Block verses

    I think the difference is between blood...and shed blood. These are not the same of course. I can go to a clinic and get a blood test...a drawing of blood...and yet live through it. No one will accuse the nurse or technician of any sin or crime. However if I go to the same clinic and someone...