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See, we will have to disagree on that...obviously you are just stuck on the idea that Paul is speaking of incorrect doctrine...and that only teachers and "ministers" are building etc etc... That is fine...I just cannot go there with you, that's all.

I think it was Watchman Nee who said... "Sadly God's people will only drop their pride and become ONE under persecution. During persecution no one care about sects, creeds, or denominations." If he didn't say that, then someone else did. I have never forgotten it. I DO know that when there...

Oh no worries....it was me I think who mis-read what I "thought" you were saying. :D All is good...I believe we are 'on the same page'...

I was trying to get him back into the thread...he had not responded since post #5 :)

I have never agreed that it is referring to any leadership or teachings...( unless they are our own! :) ) Paul here was writing it to to Church. But every one is responsible to get before God and hear directly from Him..what emphasis HE is putting on that chapter. To me...I am quite...

At least you can have a message in comfort of your own home. :D The best of both worlds...

Well....... Thank you very much for taking the time to say goodbye. So many people just vanish, and then we wonder, "What did we say or no say"? Also I am glad that you said goodbye and why you were going...because if you hadn't I would very likely have written to you in a few days, bugged...

What I said was As I showed above...in my own quote...I DID say, maybe it was how you worded it!!! That was how I read it! No need for any confusion.....Just ignore it.

God is not In Heaven. ( How do you like them apples.? :) ) Heaven ........is In God.

I listened to it.... my own older brother was 5 years old then me...I was always "fighting him off" starting when he was 13. ( me at 8)

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And there is the rub. ( as I see it) that line of yours which I made bold in your quote. Maybe my age...or maybe the wording...but I have seen too many people calling things faith, which turned out to be presumption. I do not fall in the group who - Do something "in faith" and expect to...

I know the "feeling" but that is all it is...a feeling. Elijah felt just them same... when he was sitting there hanging his head..because he felt alone in his fight... But God spoke and said- 1 Kings 19 "Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal...

.........By Jennifer Rothchild. Sometimes we get soul tired, don’t we? Often it comes when we’ve strayed from what is most precious to us— like our beliefs, our identity in Christ or our time with the Lord. Emotionally, we can start to crumble. Mentally, we can become deceived. Our spirits...

Great post @Nancy Well said. Praise God He has given us the Body of Christ to "carry us" in prayer when we are not able... xx .......

AMEN @Naomi25 It is not that He can't or wont...in my life it has often been that He is teaching me something else...often that I must draw more on His strength. But I do not enjoy " Learning lessons"... Depression can be like a suffocating think cloud that settles on our head...

@Willie T Amen to that...that was very 80's Word Faith and all that. Even though we were "In it" at the time... and like you...very into laying on of hands and healing...( still are ) that "lack of faith thing" is just a self-righteous religious thing. It stinks.

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Whatever... You are determined ....so have at it...and point your finger at all those who don't have the mandate of God to follow the tune you are piping. Enjoy your little one man demonstration....