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  1. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    On WHO?? On WHICH splintered faction did the Holy Spirit rest upon?? This is a truly asinine supposition unless you can show me ONE Body of like-minded believers (2 Thess. 2:15) on whom the Holy Spirit "transferred" Christs's Authority. Sooooo - you DON'T believe that Double-Predestination is...
  2. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    That's a truly idiotic position - and one that would get you laughed out of any Greek class.. Unbelievable . . .
  3. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    Paul answered that question in Rom. 1:6 when he said: “I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile” Now - what does he mean by "believe"? He certainly doesn't mean mere intellectual assent...
  4. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    These are descriptions of what the Church is. It's STILL the Church of God. I suggest you refer to post #823 for further explanation.
  5. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    And the text is RED is where you ALWAYS get into trouble because you don't do your homework. Ignatius was writing about the "Catholic Church" as a title - not a mere description. This is evidenced by further 2nd century documentation. One ROCK SOLID example is the second century document...
  6. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    In order for this to be true - you have to assume that Jesus LIED in Matt. 16:18 when He promised that His Church would never succumb to the gates of Hell. It's been 500 YEARS of confusion - and generation after generation of Protestants have died believing in erroneous and/or competing...
  7. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    Not true at ALL. First of all - the Church isn't given a name in the NT. That developed over time. As I showed you - by the end of the 1st century - it was known as "The Catholic Church." It was in John's disciple' (Ignatius's) Letter to the Smyrnaeans that we read this. That's the oldest...
  8. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    No - let's not. I already told you - it's called, "The Catholic Church". If you're unable to have an intelligent conversation - just say so . . . The Authority of the Church IS the Authority if Christ - as HE granted it . . . Matt 16:18-19 And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this...
  9. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    Like I said - it came from a PROTESTANT historian . . . This one ALSO came from a Protestant historian. In fact - from one of the most respected Protestant historians, J.N.D. Kelly, in His Oxford Dictionary of Popes. He lists ALL of the Catholic Popes going ALL the way back to Peter. We first...
  10. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    WRONG. There are Protestant sects with doctrines that are as different as night and day. Are YOU trying to tell me that the Holy Spirit caused this confusion? SOME Protestants believe that God created some for Heaven - and the rest for Hell. Other Protestants find this teaching...
  11. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    The original tree of Christianity. Actually - I'm not the one who came up with that comparison. It is from a Protestant historian, Kenneth Samples.
  12. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    That's just it - I DON'T call it "The ROMAN Catholic Church." There's no such thing. It's The Catholic Church, of which I belong to the Roman/Latin Liturgical Rite. There are some TWENTY Liturgical Rites that comprise the ONE Catholic Church. There is the Melkite, Maronite, Byzantine...
  13. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    WRONG. When Jesus instructed the crowds - He instructed EVERYONE. When He instructed His inner circle - He was instructing the leaders of His Church. He spoke in parables to the crowds - He explained those parables to His inner circle. WRONG again. The Church consists of all those who listen...
  14. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    First of all - welcome to the forum. Unfortunately, you're not going to get away with the unsubstantiated claims above in RED around here, though. There are too many educated Catholics - and non-Catholics who have done their homework. "Romanism", as you call it, doesn't exist - only the...
  15. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    You're absolutely right that the Church s NOT a denomination - and neither is the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is the original Tree from which Protestantism splintered. It is the Acorn that became the Oak. As for WHAT the Church is - I think it's time for a Bible lesson . . . - The...
  16. BreadOfLife

    Jesus isn't Catholic

    Jesus's promise that the Holy Spirit would guide His Church to ALL truth (John 16:12-15) was NOT granted to every individual. It was granted to those who were at the Last supper - His inner circle. They were the Leaders of His Church - the first Bishops (Acts 1:20). If this promise HAD been...
  17. BreadOfLife

    Bible alone?

    Sooooo, because I asked a hypothetical question about TWO completely different types of Protestantism - that YOU couldn't answer, by the way - this means that I "hate" Calvinists?? Talk about a bizarre stretch . . . Ummmmmmm, how about answering the question? NOT sure what you're trying to say...
  18. BreadOfLife

    There are no Catholics in Heaven.

    Your answers are ridiculous. 1. They abandoned Him because they COULDN'T believe. They thought that they would have to eat the flesh off of His bones - and they grumbled about it (John 6:52, 61). they walked away because they thought He was insane. 2. "63 It is the Spirit who gives life...
  19. BreadOfLife

    There are no Catholics in Heaven.

    The practice of telling our sins directly to the Church is based in Scripture. Three times in the Gospels (Matt. 16:19, 18:18 and John 20:23), we read where Jesus gave the Apostles the power to forgive sins or to hold them bound. This is not a something that Jesus took lightly. In John...
  20. BreadOfLife

    There are no Catholics in Heaven.

    That's very nice - but it doesn't address anything I asked about John 6:66-67.