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That's an interesting story - and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Peter's Primacy. The Scripture verses I presented DO. Nice story, though . . .

WHY would the Tradition be "broken" because of a flawed sinful MAN? We are ALL flawed, sinful people. So, going by YOUR logic - Christ can't even save us because of that. What an anti-Biblical CROCK . . .

As I educated you on another thread - EVERY Christian institution had bad people in it. It's been that was from the beginning when Jesus chose Judas. The Church has NEVER defined by it's worst sinners. If it was - YOU might be at the top of the list - who knows? As for a bad Pope - God has...

Point is, to be baptized into Christ, which is, as you said, being baptized in the Spirit, entirely overrides and relegates to the realm of obsolete, being baptized in water. I'm glad that you now have learnt to distinguish the varied usage of Baptism in the Bible. Water baptism foreshadowed the...

As usual - the EASIEST part about debating with YOU is the fact that you always have to resort to lying because you have NO case. First of all - Johann Tetzel was not "entirely sanctioned" by the Church to sell Indulgences. He wasn't even PARTIALLY sanctioned. It was an abuse. There was...

The Church is NOT defined by it's worst sinners. It NEVER HAS been. If that were the case - we would ALL be on the road to Hell. Judas was a Devil - yet he was one of the Twelve that Jesus chose. The Church is the Body of Christ (Col. 1:18) - DESPITE the sins of its members. STUDY your Bible...

The Baptism of Christ IS to be Baptized in the Spirit (John 3:5, Acts 2:38). Eph. 4:5-6 ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE BAPTISM, ONE God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. YOU are the one who is confused . . .

The entire Church hierarchy wasn't "arrogant" or "wicked" or "wrong". There were SOME who were - like Johann Tetzel, who went around the German countryside selling Indulgences. This was an ABUSE and was NEVER sanctioned by the Church. As for your final claim - only Protestant scholars deny...

That was never my intention. I'm trying to wake you up . . .

Earned?? No. It was GRANTED by our Lord Jesus Christ . . . Matt 16:16-19 I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. WHATEVER YOU BIND on earth shall be bound in heaven; and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven." Matt. 18:15-18 "If your brother sins (against you), go...

And the BIBLE says you're DEAD wrong . . . John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of WATER AND THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. Mark 16:16 He who believes AND IS BAPTIZED WILL BE SAVED; but he who does not believe will be condemned. Acts...

Apparently, you've never actually READ Luther's 95 Theses. Not ALL of them are gripes. SOME of them are actually in agreement with the Church. However, Luther quickly got full of himself - not only inventing doctrines, but ridiculing the Church. Sola Scriptura is NOWHERE supported by...

No - don't do that. I never do. I call out people's POSTS for being stupid and idiotic when they ARE stupid and idiotic.

And once again - you don't READ the posts. I have repeatedly stated - as doe Scripture that water is the MEANS by which we are Baptized - not the ENDS. Peter makes the analogy that we are saved THROUGH water - not BY water (1 Pet. 3:21). This last post of your is just a desperate and bogus...

It was BOTH. There were some bad guys in the Church hierarchy - but rather than work to truly "Reform" the church - Luther, Zwingili, Calvin, et al chose to break off and create their OWN sects with their OWN doctrines. this is evident by the different teachings of each of the so-called...

I NEVER said that at all - and the Church doesn't teach that either. I believe - as the Church has always taught - that Protestant Christians are our separated brothers and sisters in Christ. The Church has a teaching called Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus (Outside the Church The is No Salvation)...

But you're NOT old enough to give an intelligent, adult answer. Got it.

Wrong. - The Church is spoken of in the NT as a VISIBLE entity (Matt. 5:14). - At the Last Supper, Jesus prayed fervently for His Church to remain ONE - as He and the Father are ONE (John 17:20-23). - Jesus identified His very SELF with His ONE Church (Acts 9:4-5). - Jesus told the leaders of...

On no - you're "not obsessed" with me.:rolleyes: Ummmmmm, am I still on "Ignore" or was that too much for you to handle?

We put our faith in CHRIST, who has given HIS Church Supreme earthly Authority (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23). HIS Church isn't a mere "denomination". it is the Body of Christ (1 Col. 18). It is the original tree from which Protestantism splintered...