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@Aunty Jane Oh, and there's this, although I haven't figured out how to copy paste from this, do here's a screenshot...

@Aunty Jane And the NASB says Hebrews 1:8 [8]But of the Son He says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the righteous scepter is the scepter of His kingdom.

@Aunty Jane And the ESV says But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. Hebrews 1:8 ESV Hebrews 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of...

Like I said ambiguous or mistranslated verses lead people in the wrong direction. This is a quote from Psalms 45:6-7 is addressed to a human king. The NET renders that verse...."Your throne, O God, is permanent. "The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of justice. 7 You loved justice and hate...

@Aunty Jane The Father, according to Paul, was addressing His Son, saying, "Thy throne O God...". If you can't understand language that you call archaic, by all means, read it in a new translation. But you won't convince me that the translators got that so wrong as to change it's meaning so...

It was only a ministry of death to those disobeyed them. And it was a ministry of death even to Jesus who took upon Himself our sin, yet He was resurrected because He was personally guiltless. If we are forgiven those sins of the past, and do not offend in the future, them the law has now power...

And he's doing just that.

I don't know. You are going to have to ask them. I'm not defending Trinitarianism. I'm defending Christ as deity. Your denial of that is your greatest stumbling block... Not the Trinity.

But obedience is fairly simple don't you think? I mean, when God gave the Commandments to Moses 4000 odd years ago, He knew what circumstances, what conditions, what state of mind mankind would be in today right? Yet He didn't add provisos, addendums, caveats, or loopholes on the reverse side of...

And he's been here for 1700 years.:)

BTW, I haven't forgotten what this thread was originally all about. The political hunger games of the evangelical right. Still interested in hearing people's thoughts on this and their biblical justification for it's existence.

Covered this? You certainly did. Obscured it entirely by omitting half the verse. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he , (the Father) saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a...

And the first few verses in Hebrews.

Good answer. So as scripture says, love is the fulfilling of the law right? Further question. Why is it that those who claim love as the ultimate Christian experience and practice, so often search diligently for reasons not to obey the 4th commandment? After all, there is no scriptural basis...

You speak a great deal about love, and rightly so. Love is absolutely the benchmark for the Christian disciple. All the heart, soul, mind, and body. Self sacrificial love is the true mind of Christ which we profess to have. Question. Does love therefore exclude obedience, or make obedience...

Most of the world worship themselves. There must be a reason for that. Have you considered that the reason why the aisles never spoke of Sunday worship either negatively or positively was because everyone observed the Sabbath? There's not even any record in scripture of the Pharisees and...

Yep, rationalizing. You said it yourself. Like Father like Son. But you and your church wants to make him out to be an angel. KJV Hebrews 1:8 8 But unto the Son he said, "your throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of your kingdom."

Thou shalt observe the Sabbath, on account of Him who ceased from His work of creation, but ceased not from His work of providence: it is a rest for meditation of the law, not for idleness of the hands." "The Anti-Nicene Fathers," Vol 7,p. 413. From "Constitutions of the Holy Apostles," a...

Seeing they disagreed with one another, which ones would you choose? Nonsense. The Catholic Church didn't become an institutional body until it became united to the state and relied on state power to advance it's dogmas. Prior to that the church in Rome was no more nor less important in stature...

You are making one huge presumption about what I believe. How do you perceive that I accept the trinity from what I wrote above? Believe what God says. That's belief. The Father sent His Son. Two distinct entities are described here. He didn't send a created being too become a son. Jesus was...