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Are you talking about the baby? What do you mean he is dead? Are you saying that if a baby dies he goes to hell? (or do you mean the other member is in Adam?? I'm confused).

Are you saying that a baby is born a sinner.... or that we all BECAME, at some point, sinners due to the AFFECT of original sin? (the sin nature).

I think the other member is getting confused about being born with the sin nature and being born already having sin. We are born with the proclivity toward sin.... however, when a baby is born, he is NOT A SINNER... yet. Age of accountability comes into play.

Not interested. I know MORE than I ever would have cared to know. But, you sure are prolific.

You could disagree St. SteVen. You could preach and teach that Jesus did not teach the very commandments HE gave to Moses and which are meant to be forever.... which is why the Sabbath issue always comes up. However, He kept all of them.... and disciples are supposed to follow and learn from...

Oops. Let's see if you could figure out which verse I meant..... Yeah. Fun time.

No over-statement. EVERY denomination believes THEY have the truth. Otherwise, why would they teach what they teach if they didn't think they were right?? Correct. Correct. But do you like the result?? I don't. Homosexuals are humans and may wish to serve God. It has produced some problems...

Are you serious? We've all answered this for you. Time to move on. This is too interesting. Unfortunately, I'm not going to discuss this very serious topic as a by-product of a different topic. Oh. I see, you have a thread on it. You're very prolific, I must say. Jesus DID promote the 10...

Two comments: 1. EVERY denomination thinks they got everything right. 2. The CC was not so "modern" before this Pope. In fact, the CC is the denomination that most kept to biblical obedience to God. I can't really say that at this point, some damage has been done. Think of all the...

How to reply? After some thought.... I suppose anyone could fake Christianity,,,, But we're talking about sincere persons that want to be saved, right? So why would anyone who does NOT believe in Jesus want to PRAYER ------ Pray ---- exactly who would a person be praying to if they don't...

CC means the Catholic Church (at least for me). I'm very sorry when any church causes emotional hurt. This happens in every church, unfortunately. It usually happens when one is too close to that church. I've experienced the same but, guess what, I don't care. Why. Because the church is made up...

Right now I'm affiliated with the CC. That doesn't mean I'm Catholic. Have been Protestant for about 40 years. That doesn't mean I'm protestant. YOU figure it out ! LOL

yes it does. We have a CHRISTIAN RELIGION that INCLUDES personal belief in Jesus as Lord and Savior. That Christian religion includes other necessities: PRAYER MIRACLES --- BELIEF IN OBEDIENCE TO JESUS FOLLOWING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS FELLOWSHIPPING - GATHERING AS BELIEVERS LITURGICAL CELEBRATIONS...

Ummm. You've just changed the point of this topic. Now you say it's the definition of the term the faith. You mentioned to me that it's because the two terms have totally different meanings. I think the end is near. (I don't mean the end of the world).

It does NOT mean that! You don't seem to want to understand that The faith includes faith. There is no conflict - I think this will be my last reply regarding this.

@Beebster 2 of 2 What does this have to do with anything? Answered above. What? Do you know what just/justice means? If you do, why post the above which seems to me to indicate that you do NOT know what justice is. (as the reformed do not, of course, or they wouldn't be reformed)...

What we can know about God is written about in the OT and the NT. We also have to admit and accept that the understanding of God grew and changed over millennia. You also didn't reply to my question as to your faith belief....I believe you're reformed. I say this because only the reformed...

What was delivered to the Apostles is The faith. It states this plainly. HOW you now reconcile that with the simple teaching of the NT that we must BELIEVE AND HAVE FAITH... is now up to you - it seems that you're having a problem with this - but there is no problem present... Could you notch...

It's been a joy.

BTW the verse about counting the cost comes just after at Luke 14:28-29.