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I wanted to add, for clarification: Galatians speaks of THE FAITH.... (Galatians 3:23) But the OT speaks of FAITH.... So faith was always present and needed for salvation... Jesus came to teach us THE FAITH.... What type of faith,,,the Christian faith (or what became the Christian faith)...

It is THE FAITH. But it doesn't change the meaning of FAITH. It is only referring to THE FAITH that was taught by Jesus and the Apostles. A particular faith...the Christian faith. Faith saves me... The faith saves me... Which faith? The Christian faith.

Why do you think I want an answer when it's my position that there is no answer? I'm trying to show everyone responding that there is no answer. As @RedFan replied....we all would like to know every answer. Unfortunately, I don't think we're going to get all answers that are desired. I'm...

This is good to know. Angels were placed at the entrance to the Garden. Everything existed before Adam and Eve. God made the garden specifically for them. The serpent was already there. I don't know who the Nachash or Malachim were. Can't remember these words from the book of Job.

I don't find that knowing Hebrew and Greek helps any. I believe that the OT and NT are sufficient for us to know what GOD WANTS US TO KNOW. Beyond that, we have to admit that we do not know. I happen to know a theologian that taught and knows 6 or 7 languages and reads the bible in Greek. When...

I'm sorry you write so much Johann. You don't seem to grasp what I'm saying or you wouldn't. We all KNOW evil exists. We DON'T KNOW WHY or WHERE it comes from. Can you accept that there is no reply?

This is your reply then. What you posted above: ONLY THAT GOD IS THE AUTHOR OF GOOD AND EVIL FOR HE USES BOTH AT HIS WILL., OK. Good for you. You've decided that God created evil. Except the bible states God IS love and is all-good. Not God is LOVE. John says God IS love. So there's a...

Yeah. Our boats are passing in the night.... But they will not meet. You keep discussing evil. I'm discussing the PROBLEM OF EVIL. You state we should not choose the WRONG. Fine. WHERE DID THE WRONG COME FROM? As I stated....I'm not interested in discussing angels. One has nothing to do with...

Are you agreeing that nature is awaiting its redemption? From what? It seems that you agree. Not sure since you wrote so much.

This is the negative form of good.... evil is the absence of good. No. I say that evil is real and not the absence of something. Absence could have just as easily been NEUTRAL instead of evil. So evil is real. Right. Which proves that evil is real. No. No new notions. Evil is evil. We...

Very good. But how does the above explain why evil exists? How does it explain how it began? It talks about evil....which we all know about. But it does not answer WHY evil is present.

I agree. But I'm not talking about angels. I believe I mentioned this...if not to you then to another member. This is part of the problem of evil.... one of the options is that there are 2 gods... which there cannot be. correct. No it doesn't what? Gosh it's difficult to reply to some...

Well JBO, I'm sorry to say you haven't pondered the problem enough. But that's OK,,,most haven't. Nature is effected by evil, just as man is. When Adam sinned evil entered into the world. Nature is not morally responsible for the evil found in it... nevertheless it is there. We can experience...

You're not replying to the problem. Did God put the tree there, with the knowledge of good AND EVIL, so A and E could choose evil? HOW does that answer the problem of theodicy?

face, we can't really know what happened before the universe began unless it's clearly stated in scripture. This is the best theologians have been able to deduce. Why? Because man looks for some answer to the problem of evil and so we have the story of Lucifer. Be it true or not.....satan DOES...

God placed the tree in the garden. So God created evil?

Let's try it this way and you reply as you will to both posts. God gave humans free will. We have a choice. We could choose from good or evil. WHERE does that evil come from? Adam introduced evil. WHERE did that evil come from? You say that God ALLOWED evil as a means of proper development...

The above explains evil.... but it does not explain from WHENCE IT BEGAN. It explains the problem very well....which we all know. But it gives no explanation as to its beginning. Since God created everything, it would SEEM that evil also had to be created by God. This is the Calvinist belief...

Are you aware that evil is also found in nature? Can nature choose to obey God? The answer to theodicy by turning to the possible answer of free will is naiive. The truth is: Christianity does not supply an answer to the problem of evil.

Call him satan. Call him the devil. Are you saying the devil doesn't exist?