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There's dismantling and there's dismantling. No apology necessary.

Winner!!! Ding, Ding, Ding!!!

I think your purpose here is clear for all to see. Thank you for participating. :confused:

I don't do eternal torment. Call me Edward Fudge.

Thank you for participating. :)

Agreed, and if you think God is going to tolerate a 2nd rebellion, you're wrong. Perfect, sinless nature + knowledge of Calvary = universe protected from 2nd rebellion. The blood of Christ is the eternal antidote for sin.

Then Lucifer and adam and Eve were ripped off. The game was fixed. Sorry, any scenario that ends in us having an inherent advantage over the 3 original sinners is unfair, which is ungodly. The blood of Christ is the eternal antidote for sin.

No malice intended whatsoever. That is why I was careful to say "They often prove to be traps." So the suspiciousness is on you. I do not agree with your answer to the OP, as my position is explained fairly thoroughly in some of my other posts. I fear we've gotten off to a rough start. I...

Neither did Lucifer or Adam and Eve. Which will somehow make us more virtuous than Lucifer or Adam and Eve were in the beginning? If so, then they were ripped off/the game was fixed--which isn't possible. The blood of Christ is the eternal antidote for sin, folks.

I believe the spirit of the law was broken. I'm not sure the technicality is worth much in his defense. I believe, in the end, it will prove to add to the fire which devours him.

Has anyone ever changed their minds on a doctrinal position as a result of praying and studying something out that they read here on CB? Please share. Debate is not the goal here, as inevitable as it may be. Testimony is. I'll start. I once realized while dicussing covenants on another forum...

The Holy Spirit manages all complications over time when yielded to. Ever study Bible numerology? There is no way these people could have put together such a harmonious system of numbers. No way.

He's literally suggesting the opposite of what God said (albeit with a quid pro quo). He's perpetrating a falsehood to encourage distrust.

I'm never shocked by such things. It's as simple as believing God will resolve them at just the right time.

How would you recognize true faith? By what signs?

He's weaving a web of deception, encouraging confusion and doubt.

With God, a thousand years is like a day. Neither of them lived to be 1000.

"Hath God said ye shall not eat of every tree in the garden?"

"Ye shall not surely die."

Embrace the paradoxical nature of Scripture, and your head won't ache nearly as much (if I'm reading you right).