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Sorry yes...I did write it confusingly. :) Looking back, I guess I was saying ... I can more understand the unsaved ones..they have given themselves unto sin. I cannot understand how the born-again homo...like the two I know...can justify what they are doing and how they are living to...

This is so troubling...because over 50% of his ministry is to youth and Universities. :( He is so clever with "stating his case". He appeals to their intellect.

I so dislike posts that think somehow that they "win" some prize by quoting lots of scripture...and somehow, that wins some argument for them!! I did not mention, my husband IS a pastor. When we lived back in in England we started our church from scratch. Just four people...and over a year...

I believe she was as John the Baptist was. Under the law, and under the blood of bulls , goats, sheep etc.. They were their salvation back then. Holy and righteous by keeping the law, and needing the blood covering. Nothing wrong with that...therein was their righteousness. There was...

Come on, is that the best you can do? Did you read any of the posts here? We all already KNOW the scriptures!!! This discussion is going a bit deeper than that ,.... this is a real important "issue of our day" It not going away!! :eek: Quoting scripture is not "a discussion". How does...

Do you remember back to when YOUR Former B.C. MP. Svend Robinson was spouting the odds? :eek: Saying that he was going to get the age of consent down to age 12 for boys!!! Saying ..."we will find your kids, in the schools, in gym clubs, in the boys clubs...where ever they are, we will find...

Thanks for the comments...I'm going to read it over again now. :)

Thank you. Amen. But, if you have any wisdom on anything I have shared in my posts ....go for it. You've probably "got the gist of the video by reading all the posts here, :) I'm open ...

When my husband hears them asking for money...and saying -"Give, and God will repay you ten fold.. increase your giving and you'll get more back.." He says ..Well we can tell they are lying, because IF they believed it , they would give their money to the congregation during " offering...

@bbyrd009 @amadeus I agree...I see it too as a symbolic number. All I know , Or care to know...is that it is some period of time when some are "in" and some are "out" and sleep through it. When I was young I thought that "wise Christians " should understand all this..then I wised up, and...

....just posting this... I wonder if anyone else does the same? I've found , and it took a long time. That we can control our dreams to a degree. Especially if it is a nasty one. "Rubbish dreams" which I think is the majority of our dreams...are harmless. Even while dreaming I laugh to myself...

Now THAT is wisdom right there. :) Amen. ( though I do often enjoy BOL's posts when he is just chatting and not ranting..it is worth the read. Plus it is not negative when he has good arguments. :) )

PERFECT!! Thank you...yes that brings it right back again to the heart attitude, and allowing God to work through us. Of ourselves we can't , but we can 'step-back' as it were, and allow God to do it through us. Yes, that is the wisdom...thanks x

@Heart2Soul Thank you for that. You hit the nail. That is the kind of thing I am wrestling with. What is there end? Probably , like when John asked Jesus about Peter. He would say " What's that to you, follow thou Me." I have two of them in my life, loosely. One is a young...

I think God right now is in a quiet hidden time. In many "churches" we see lots of action and noise. This doesn't mean that God is doing anything. People would rather see any action than sit and quietly wait for God to move. And, when God doesn't "perform"...they get on their hind legs...

Only if we believe that "we should have power" we should be able to "get things done", like change lives. "We" can't even bring someone into the Kingdom. Even back in our early "faith and power" days of much action, starting a church, leading converts to the Lord, laying hands on them and...

I thought that was a well laid out post. They are much more enjoyable to read when your not "on a rant". :) I've always been of the persuasion that Jesus did have siblings...( not that it is life or death to me either way) ...but actually I thought your argument here was a good one. I am...

There I was, thinking you were ignoring me,or put me on an ignore list! :D As for mjrhealth...I believe he has " taken a powder", as has Pia.

Don't worry about any derailing ....go for it! We are quite able to have two conversations going at a time. :) After all...the topic title does say " Food for thought," too. Ha!

Thank you for you comments John. Much appreciated. For myself I have not come to a good balance ( in my heart) My first instinct is to reject them. Not only because it is ungodly ...but because God "made the male and female." When two of a kind intermingle in a sexual way... it is 100%...