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  1. ScottA

    Are You Prepared If Things go all "Lord of the Flies?"

    "As in the days of Noah." Which is a little bit less scary than has been imagined. Earth in upheaval for sure. But otherwise, rather than a building up on every level, a winding down; a folding back to the One (Jesus), rather than an unfolding of the one (Adam)...as in the days of Christ.
  2. ScottA

    Are You Prepared If Things go all "Lord of the Flies?"

    I am not much of a prepper either, but I do kinda dig certain parts of it. I have a go-bag, and have some things in my car and around the house that I consider extra essential. I also hunt with a bow and arrows, and have a vegetable garden. But I look at it two different ways: 1) God is my real...
  3. ScottA

    Are you quoting scripture like Satan quotes scripture?

    Yeah, I realize this is quite a rant. But it's just that it's so ironic for those of us who look to Christ for the salvation of God, to be interacting with each other, with some unknowingly helping Satan to divide us by the same misuse of scripture as that original liar. We ought to, and I...
  4. ScottA

    Are you quoting scripture like Satan quotes scripture?

    If you are quoting scripture to debate a point against others quoting other scriptures, without reconciling the two scriptures -- you are quoting scripture just like Satan! If so, you are also documenting your own failure of the testing of every spirit (1 John 4:1), for God is not against...
  5. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    You pit one scripture against another (God against God), but cannot and have not reconciled every word. In 1 John 1:5-10, John is speaking of those who are not saved (our topic in this thread). And it is John who also clarifies that those He is referring to in 1 John 1:5-10 "do not know Him"...
  6. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    No...God's ways are higher, not "out there." But you are obviously leaning on your own understanding, which are the ways of men and the terms of the fallen world. None of that is relevant. You are mistaking the ways of the world to be the ways of God, as if it all were something more than His...
  7. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    "Gnosticism", although meant as a cut (with some), proves to be synonymous with Godly or spiritual in nature...for God is spirit. So thank you for the compliment of being "really out there" like God is really out there, even if it is against you but helping those who know the truth. But the...
  8. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    No...they wrote and ministered to and of struggles, even using themselves as examples just as God did, but preached absolution. One of the best examples (since you name John against the actual truth), is John saying: 1 John 3:6 "Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen...
  9. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    No...you have assumed that men are alive in the flesh. But those who actually come to Christ and join Him in actual life, come to the knowledge that they were dead and are dead, and having released death in the world, have gained life in God. Which life is eternal, the same yesterday, today...
  10. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    The point is that we should indeed die, and it should be finished when we come to Christ, that we should also be born again of the spirit of God, having put to death the flesh, as crucified and risen with Christ (past tense). And those who do not, are not even His. He came and died for many...
  11. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    That is a good description of your error. Thanks for describing it. Yes indeed, "most of us don't drop dead after coming to Christ." They should, because that is what is called for, but most don't. Which is to say, most are not "born again of the spirit of God" when they begin to follow...
  12. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    Nonetheless, when "It is finished", it is finished...that very same day. The problem is that many do not receive the Lord in full that very moment, but are convinced that it is a "process", which they do by the false gospel of those who do the same, claiming what they do not know, but speculate...
  13. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    You can quote the words, but you do not know what you are talking about. Even the demons can do as much. One Light broken down into the prism of light and darkness making up the truth of this fallen world, is indeed true when describing the evil times of this world...and that would-be...
  14. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    No...we can know, and we who have passed from death to life, do know. Just as Jesus said, "we know of what we speak." But those who do not know only speak from that empty reservoir: They do not even know what they do not know. And passages like "running the race" are not speaking of when "It is...
  15. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    No...again. It is the hope of those who have not passed from death to life, that those who have and by Christ the first fruits, are the confirmation of their faith, the things hoped for. But it is not what those who have not passed from death to life as yet who are qualified to say. On the...
  16. ScottA

    Job 16,22 ???

    Job is speaking and referring to himself, that when he leaves this world (when he dies in the flesh), all of his sorrows will be left behind.
  17. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    That is only how it is perceived by the fallen. God, on the other hand, "is the same yesterday, today, and forever"; and therefore from His perspective "I am" saved, or I am not saved. He is all-knowing, and just because we are not all-knowing during these times of our coming out of darkness...
  18. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    Yes, I do. Many are deceived in thinking they are saved who are not. Many are convinced they are saved by their own understanding that have not actually been born again of the spirit of God, but rather are immersed in their own warm and fuzzy feel-good notions, and only "hope" for salvation...
  19. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    No...that is only true for those who have not yet passed from death to life, those who have not been born again of the spirit of God, and those who are not NOW living in Christ and He in them. But those are not the saved. Those are the seekers, the followers, the hopeful, those not fully in...
  20. ScottA

    Do we even have the correct definition of "saved?"

    The saved do not "think" they are saved, but know they are.