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  1. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    marks I'm saying that the N.T. must be understood as a whole... A person cannot take one or two verses and base their belief on only those 2 verses.
  2. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    Of course the one who does not REMAIN in the home previously was in it. Jesus said we are to REMAIN in His home (to use your analogy)... This means it is possible to leave that home. It's very clear. John 5:10 If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my...
  3. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    The Jews didn't refer to themselves as born again believers. The branches are the Jews. The Jews that had no faith, that rejected the message of the gospel. Please make your point.
  4. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    God clings to you. It's YOU that must also cling to Him. Jesus said if we abide in Him we will not be thrown out as dead branches. Paul said to hold on tight... Colossians 1:21-23 21And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds, 22yet He has now reconciled...
  5. GodsGrace

    HERESY?

    Gosh AJ... What do you mean there is no Easter in the bible? Call it Easter Call it Pasqua Call it Pasaq Call it Passover They all mean Easter! It's the feast of the resurrection of Jesus. Don't JWs celebrate the resurrection in bodily form of Jesus? The only change Christianity made was to...
  6. GodsGrace

    HERESY?

    We celebrate Christmas with the wanton merriments of the pagan Saturnalia? I do believe it might have been difficult for the Gentiles to leave their former beliefs before they could really cling to Christianity...not all Gentiles, but some. We're all different. This reminds me of Hebrews 4:6...
  7. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    Hey marks, You ARE a one trick pony! I've heard this before ... that we are kept by the faith OF Jesus. Here again, you take ONCE VERSE and create an entire teaching around it. You say this faith that COMES FROM CHRIST... Please answer this question since I'm never sure what a person...
  8. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    I did some carpet bombing to show that there are many verses that show one could forfeit their salvation by losing faith/belief, by leaving the faith. I don't expect you to speak to each one...but how would you explain so many verses away just to stick to your?
  9. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    The natural branches were the Jews. But look at verse 20...the branches were broken off due to unbelief. Romans 9 to 11 is specifically about the Jews and Corporate salvation. However, within Corporate salvation is also the individual. If branches were broken off due to unbelief... we also...
  10. GodsGrace

    The Trinity

    What don't you agree with? That's what the Nicene Creed states - what you said.
  11. GodsGrace

    The Trinity

    Part 2 Your last sentence is because you don't understand the Trinity. Jesus being at God's right hand is a metaphor for being with God as His annointed one, or assistant, or Savior, etc. Have you ever heard of a CEO speaking about someone as his LEFT HAND MAN? No. It is always: "He's my...
  12. GodsGrace

    The Trinity

    AJ I understand that you're a JW... What I mean by sophisticated is this: I live here now, so I have to go by what is happening here now. When I lived in the states (over 20 years ago) it was known that the JW believed Jesus was the Archangel Michael, or V V Then there was an in-between belief...
  13. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    Agreed. I like to say that the N.T. is a complete thought and it must be understood that way. BUT...when we have many very clear verses, we must accept those and not one or two that make a statement which is true, but which cannot be used to make a doctrine, or to change what the general...
  14. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    We're human EG. We're just God's creatures. When we sin we err from the truth. When a denomination teaches heresy, we err from the truth. But, if all I've read in the N.T. is true, then we're still saved. Clinging to Jesus is what saves us.... Doing our best and not living lives of sin is what...
  15. GodsGrace

    HERESY?

    Thanks Enoch. On a phone, so will reply tomorrow. Just this, by the time of Augustine, the early church was already being corrupted. Agreed. As to the feasts, I haven't read anything bewildering,,,maybe it's just too late here. Tomorrow.
  16. GodsGrace

    HERESY?

    Hi John Paul I don't see any hatred in @Grailhunter . Just let me say that Christians don't celebrate bunnies and eggs, but the resurrection of Jesus. As to the JW, I know that if someone leaves that community, they are shunned by their very own family members, if the also happen to belong to...
  17. GodsGrace

    HERESY?

    Yes, it sounds like you believe we stop sinning at some point. I dislike debating this but will make the following points: 1. What does holy mean to you? 2. If we didn't sin, we wouldn't need an advocate with the Father. 3. Jesus said to confess our sins to each other and James reported...
  18. GodsGrace

    HERESY?

    But why put such an emphasis on this aspect? Christmas was to offset a pagan feast,,,maybe it was necessary? Why does Schaff believe this was done?
  19. GodsGrace

    The Trinity

    "Everyone is forcing his way into the Kingdom." I never said this.
  20. GodsGrace

    HERESY?

    Agreed 100% I'm just so tired of explaining it each time. When I quote one of them, I'm told their writings were not inspired. I believe Ignatius of Antioch was taught by John and another Apostle and to have to hear that he was not inspired makes me giggle. I have a chart that shows who was...