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I happen to agree with the above. What does this have to do with some of the dark moments of the CC? Absolutely nothing. What I'm saying is that you cannot deny historical truth. You're too accustomed to arguing for the CC.

Hi Marks Everything you say about how one could probably not leave God (you didn't use the word "probably") is correct. I myself feel the same way. BTW, some children do walk away from their parents by their own choice and for different reasons. But this is philosophical talk....I do believe...

Persons that do not believe in OSAS do NOT go around worrying about their salvation and wondering if they're doing works or not. I'd say that the ideal of OSAS is very destructive to the Christian faith. It's also very dangerous since some may believe they could live as they want to and still...

Marks.... You can't base all your theological beliefs on one scripture. Those who are raised with Him will appear with Him IF they are still raised at the end of their life. Not ALL those that come to believe in Jesus and follow Him will still be doing this at the end of their life... although...

Wow...@APAK is one old dude. Not young like you and I are!!! LOL Thanks for the wikipedia update.

If the divine authority is to the church, then it was mishandled for centuries, given that it was by humans, but also with the knowledge of the popes.

Theefaith I do believe you're ignoring history, and I don't mean the crusades.

How do you understand Luke 8:13? Jesus said They believed for a while...

Hmmm. I don't believe they're baseless... The church joined the governments and even Was the govt in some cases,,, I don't condemn the CC but we cant deny the truth either.

Agreed on paragraph 2. What do you mean in 1? Are you talking about works without faith?

Hi Marks First, let me say that salvation is not taken away from us,,,I'd say that it's the person that can walk away from it. God will not disown us for as long as we desire to stay with Him. Re the translations,,,of course each one might display some bias or other. This is why I have many...

Yes, and I agree. Just not sure about your connection with authority and socialism... Socialism is very authoritative. Although those who like it do seem to be against authority.. Except their own, of course.

Sure they do. What did Jesus spend over 3 years teaching the Apostles so that they could pass on the teachings? What do you think John 5:28 means?

Well, I see you're into bike riding now...and tall ones too! No, I'm still me. Have you changed?? So many new posters...

I agree with much of what you say... I think I told you on a different site that you should write a book! My question,,, How did the reformation cause socialism?

LOL lifelong... Hogwash does not a doctrine make. You've skipped over much of the NT where works are clearly stated to be necessary. This was the primary teaching of Jesus.

Nice post, covering all !

I have no doubt as to the divinity of Jesus. Does that make Mary the mother of God? Question: When someone mentions GOD....Who do you think they're referring to in the Trinity?

Hi Farouk, Here's the story with So. Carolina: Tattooing was illegal till the 2,000's. Now it's not illegal anymore, (they're making progress! LOL) but it's considered offensive. Interesting....

Yes, I like that too. What I'm getting at, however, is that without a place to meet, I don't know how Christianity could have survived all these years - let alone the persecutions at the beginning and also later. I think it's necessary to have some kind of institution we could look to and a...