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  1. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    Tong,,,sorry for delay. Must the video answer ALL questions in order for it to be real? Do we know EVERYTHING about Mars? Does this mean it's not real? Anyway, yes, I'll be happy to answer your questions. 3. What happened to the Myrrh. Do we know it was hundreds of pounds? Where is this...
  2. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    This is soooo interesting. You believe that anyone that has an erroneous belief about the gospel he must repent. First, if a person is reading the gospels,. he has ALREADY repented. This is why he's reading the gospel. It's also possible that an unsaved person is reading the bible to find out...
  3. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    That does look like Mary and the Immaculate heart. But I think the concentration should be on the shroud itself..... or it gets too confusing.
  4. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    You didn't bother to watch the video I posted, did you? What do YOU know about the shroud that makes YOU such a skeptic?
  5. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    Well, looks like we all have our very own opinion. But I was asking YOU. Could you just say it in 25 words or less?
  6. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    Why did the Crusades happen Joseph?
  7. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    Originally it DID belong to the Jews (assuming it's real)...the Jews were the only ones around back then except for those that became Christian - BUT they were not known as Christians yet. Right NOW...it belongs to the CC...or to the Pope to be accurate. Only since 1985. I'm pretty shocked...
  8. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    Why does Brian, or anyone, need to repent regarding belief in the Shroud? Are you one of those persons that hides his head in the bible and never comes up for air and can't believe ANYTHING unless it was written in the bible? Well, surprise, there's a whole world waiting for you out there...
  9. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    I've been looking since yesterday about another speaker that was also on a team...I THINK he was a photographer too, but I can't remember his name or find it. He looked kind of disheveled but had such great points that I had never heard. Anyway Brian,,, we can't convince persons that don't...
  10. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    @brian100 @Cristo Rei @Helen @Joseph77 @Pearl and anyone else interested. Here is a good video from YouTube.
  11. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    Gosh Joseph. Calm down! It's not a demonic object. Some might become too obsessed with it, but it doesn't seem like it's taking the O.P.'s attention away from God.
  12. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    What other voice? You hear voices? What are you talking about?
  13. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    @Joseph77 @Cristo Rei This is what people see when the shroud is open to the public. It's big and, quite honestly, you don't even know what you're looking at unless you've seen it already on some TV documentary. It's long because it's unfolded. The burn marks are the most evident and you...
  14. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    No one made that thing Joseph. I'm not affirming that I'm sure it's real... I don't know what it is... but it's not man-made. With all the technology we have today, and it still cannot be duplicated. Please explain how money is being made from this Shroud. It's housed in a church up in...
  15. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    Gosh,,,why would you say the above? What power? What money? Be careful. Saying the Shroud is of the devil might be blasphemous. It might be real.
  16. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    I asked the same thing but never got it. She thinks it was created using a "pinhole camera" I searched but only found an explanation of how it could be done, couldn't find a demonstration but. I have a theory that some people who are strict sola scripture do not accept any kind of modern...
  17. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    I noticed he doesn't really respond personally to some members. And, yes, it does seem obsessive to go on and on about it. Good point about the face covering. I had listened to the talks of one of the original photographers ( I think) but I can't remember his name or how to look for it on...
  18. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    So is what you're doing here witnessing? If so,,,it's not how we witness. That's done by speaking about how God has affected OUR life. Whether the Shroud is real or not is relevant.
  19. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    You think that if somehow it was proved conclusively and with no doubt that the image was that of Jesus,,,it would cause many to become believers? I don't agree. And a lot of relics ended up in the CC because that is the only church that was around at the time. No mystery there.
  20. GodsGrace

    Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

    Agreed. I'd say that we have the evidence --- no matter about the Shroud. But it's still very interesting...