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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Thank you, I appreciate that. I wonder if covenantee agrees with you about this? sml
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You're not really addressing my argument, though, which deals with more than just Matthew 24:14 itself. Jesus spoke of global things in Matthew 24:4-14 and not just things related to Jerusalem or Israel. What would have been His point in referring to global events such as wars, earthquakes and...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    The Holy Spirit who inspired him was not unfamiliar with those concepts. How do you know what Peter was familiar with? You don't. Anyone being inspired by the Holy Spirit can potentially become familiar with anything that God is familiar with, which, obviously, is everything. How do you suppose...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    What does "Pauline theology" mean exactly? You only accept Paul's teaching and not the teaching of the rest of scripture or what? Is Pauline theology any different than Jesus theology or Peter theology or John theology? Paul did not teach anything that is different than what Jesus taught or what...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Look here, fella. The Holy Spirit is my teacher, not you. You are a false teacher who tries to teach that someone cannot be considered to be born again and saved unless they are not sinning, which blatantly contradicts the fact that immature Christians struggle with sin and need to work on being...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    You have no understanding of grace! Grace doesn't stop once you are born again! We need God's grace and the blood of Christ to be saved in the first place and we continue to need it afterwards to help us keep our faith until the end. You have no idea of what you're talking about. Tell me, what...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    That is not up to you to decide. But, you think you are? The person who tries to change "we", "ourselves" and "us" into "they", "themselves" and "them"? You are delusional if you think anyone would even dream of considering you, a person who is full of himself and imagines himself to be sinless...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Why are you twisting John's words? When he said "we" that includes him. Or else he would have said "they". You are not being honest with scripture.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Nonsense. These types of comments are useless and show that you are not capable of being a Bible teacher. A Bible teacher does not disparage his students and act as if they know nothing while he knows everything. You are far too arrogant to be a Bible teacher. Being a new creation in Christ...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Do you believe that Christ's and Paul's use of the identical expression and words "the end" (telos) is any different? If so, why would their use of the words "all nations" need to be in the same context, but not their use of the words "the end"? Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    You didn't address anything I said, which is typical of false teachers like you. They back down when presented with a challenge.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I believe the context of Matthew 24:4-14 does not allow for that to be the case. The context of Matthew 24:4-14 is in relation to a coming global event and not a coming local event, as I showed in the last 2 paragraphs of post 674.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    You apparently think you don't ever sin? Do you think you are not capable of sinning? If so, where does scripture teach that becoming born again results in us not being capable of sinning any longer? If you do believe you are capable of sinning, then what do you think would happen if you sinned...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I don't disagree with the concept of OT types that foreshadowed NT antitypes. I am simply saying I don't agree with the idea that any verse or passage in the Olivet Discourse or of any other prophecy referenced in the NT as having a future fulfillemnt could have more than one future fulfillment...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You're not addressing my argument. If this is the kind of argument that you want to make, then you would have to believe that every reference to "ye" in the Olivet Discourse relates to what happened in 70 AD. Is that the point you're making? I doubt that, so this argument is not valid. If you...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Did I come across as if I wasn't sure about what I was saying? Yes, really. They worshiped the Creator God of the heavens and the earth. They were certainly aware of the book of Genesis where the triune God is recorded as having said: "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness (Genesis...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    It is whoever is alive when those things are happening. This type of argument is not valid unless you think the entire Olivet Discourse only applied to things that happened long ago, which I know you do not believe. The "ye" of Matthew 24:6 are the same "ye" of this passage... Matthew 24:42...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    That is a very good point. I can't argue with that. Or maybe I can? sml Well, I made my argument already knowing that they both referred to the gospel being preached in the whole world, so pointing out that they also both referred to all nations doesn't really change my point, which was that...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Well. The time has come. You know I never back down from a challenge. We agree on a lot, but not on this. So, let's talk about it. 1. To me, Paul was writing about the known world at that time, which did not include the entire world. I believe the gospel surely had not literally gone out into...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Well, he wasn't always into spelling things out. He's the same guy who wrote this... 1 Corinthians 2:10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within...