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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I am shocked that you deny that Jesus is the first resurrection. Acts 26:23 presents Christ’s physical resurrection as the first resurrection, saying, “Christ should suffer, and that He should be the first resurrection from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles."...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Not so! The Israeli theocratic tree has been cursed forever. We are now under the new covenant where there is no racial preference. We will never go back to the old arrangement. It is time to leave the old covenant behind you. To fully understand the continuity of God’s people from the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Keep your childish threats to yourself. They do not intimidate me or move me. There was no insults intended in my last post. There was no misrepresenting of your position. Because you could not deal with what I said you resort to threats of spreading lies about Amil. Really? Is this Christ-like...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are taking this somewhere that Scripture does not go. Isaiah 24:1-7 tells us: “Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof. And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Hopefully you are saying this in jest, because it is totally in error.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Obviously I believe Premil is unbiblical. But what is advanced by most modern-day Premils is similar/identical to these ancient early Premil heretics. These are the founding fathers of modern-day Premil. Notably, you or no Premil has been able to present one early orthodox Chiliast that held to...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    I always want to learn more. But there is nothing of historic value that you have advanced to this conversation. All I see is you ranting.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Simple! The old earth is regenerated and a new earth takes its place.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Your rebuttals contain nothing apart from your own opinions. You have nothing of historic merit to bring to the table because you refuse to take the time to research this subject. The reader will see how bereft you are of a factual rebuttal. Until you take the time to study this i will just take...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    You have nothing of a historic value to bring to the table. The reader can follow our conversation and see who has the historic facts and who is ranting. You avoid simple questions because you have nothing. It does not teach that at all. The two verses that go before Acts 1:6 (relating to the...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Don't hold your breath. He has nothing! Let him pout!
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    How sad! It is truth that you are fighting against. Why not admit it?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Thanks for sharing this. But, no, i don't see this. I honestly think your portrayal is fanciful. I suspect most Premils would agree with me.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Why did you not explain this earlier? This is obviously not a typical view. Notwithstanding, it does not add up. The earth in Revelation 20 is full of billions of wicked inhabitants as the sand of the sea who surround the camp of the saints near the end. You totally ignore that. Where is this...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Paul confirms the finality of the return of Jesus, in 1 Corinthians 15:22-24, stating, “as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming [Gr. parousia]. Then cometh the end [Gr...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Not so. Revelation 20:11-15 says, “I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God … And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Exactly. Premil is based on scriptural silence and the dumping of unrelated details into that chapter. Here we go again! Again, Premil is based on scriptural silence and the dumping of unrelated details into that chapter. Isaiah 65 makes no mention of your imaginary future millennium. It...