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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Apollinarius of Laodicea Apollinarius took up the ancient Premillennial baton from these early heretics. Notably, he too was a prominent heretic who was strongly opposed and renounced by the universal Church of his day. Very little of what he wrote has been passed down to us. Most of it was...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Where is a future millennium mentioned in Isaiah 65:19-25? Nowhere! Premils force their beliefs into the sacred text where it does not belong. This is called eisegesis not exegesis. Text, context and co-text do not seem to matter to them. Let us let the Bible speaks for itself! Isaiah...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The wording of the text and context make it clear what it relates to. You are fighting with the passage to sustain your belief in an age that will never happen. With these type of horrible hermeneutics you could literally make the Bible say whatever you want.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    But those passages do not recognize 2 ages. You invent an age and force it into passage after passage. You depend upon your misreading of one highly symbolic passage located in the most obscure setting in Scripture. You interpret the rest of the Bible through your faulty opinion of that one...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Constantly throughout the Word of God we see that “this present evil age” is equated with suffering and pain. The age to come is depicted as an eternal rest and safety. Romans 8:16-18 explains (I will quote the NKJV), “The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Address the Scriptures I presented that show "the age to come" has no death and marriage, as you (and other Premils) try to promote. Address how one must be worthy to inherit that age, whereas your age to come is saturated in billions of wicked who overrun your supposed future millennium as the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Enjoyed reading this. I have a similar story.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What do you mean? Do you believe the Jewish temple will be rebuilt? Will animal sacrifices be restarted? Not so. They predicted Christ introducing His kingdom at the First Advent. He did that. The Pharisees with the hyper-literalist theology missed that. By point that you responded to referred...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I am not sure where these mentions are. Can you please present us with every quote from Daniel 2, 9, Ezekiel 23, 37, Psalm 2, Revelation 2, Rev 12, and Rev 19 that mentions a future millennium?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The Proverbs passage doesn't say what you are attributing to it. Re Jesus teaching in Matthew 13:24-30: “The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field. But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed among the wheat, and went his way …Let both grow together until...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Do you have actual references?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Jesus said in Luke 17:26-30, “as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Not so. It looks like you are forced to do this order to support an age that doesn't actually exist. You are butchering the context and inserting your millennium where it is not mentioned or belong. That is called adding unto Scripture. The passage is talking alone about the NHNE which arrives...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You totally avoided the evidence presented. You sidestepped the Scriptures that forbid your claims. Please address, if you can. Where does the OT prophets, Christ or the NT writers teach a 3-age format (“this age, the age to come and another age to come after the age to come”)? It seems like...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I have covered this many times on this thread and Premils have carefully sidestepped the actual evidence. 1st: sinners in the lake of fire are cursed for all eternity. That should not be a difficult truth to grasp. 2nd: as for death on the new earth. You misunderstand the Hebrew text. I will...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is a strawman argument because it intentionally misrepresents the argument of your opponents in order to make it easier to discredit it. It involves a picture being presented that doesn’t accurately reflect the beliefs of the one you are debating. By exaggerating, distorting, or fabricating...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So where are these Scriptures that teach that "God always removes the righteous before His wrath but other verses seemed to say He removes the wicked from out of among the righteous. Then I saw the two reapings in revelation and it was cleared up some for me. (Then there’s that pesky verse about...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How many wicked survived the flood?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I totally disagree with your conclusions. Christ and the New Testament writers only recognize two overriding ages in their teaching – “this world/age” and “the world/age to come.” One is current, corrupt and temporal and the other is impending, perfect and eternal. One refers to mortal life on...