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The mind of Christ was one of obedience.

thank you BF.

lol...let it slide PW... Mockers, patronisers, labellers, it's all out of the same bottle; it's needed to boost their own image to themselves.....and for one who says Jesus is their lord...well, they are still children in understanding or liberation has not touched their realities.

twist it anyway you like....that is the nature of strong delusion!

In the text of the OP 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12 'lawlessness' is mentioned twice as well as 'wickedness' mentioned twice.....the connection between the two being clear. Isn't it interesting that the many debates that the law has been done away with qualifies as no Law.....in other words...

ah yes...Frank Sinatra's, I'll do it my way!

I understand....you know no other route and don't you understand the questions!

why do you go around the mulberry bush? ....is it because you know no other route or is it because you don't understand my questions?

Do you think there might be a similarity between having the door shut and being under a powerful delusion?.....and in regards to 'truth in Jesus', do you think this can be articulated/expanded or is it only a theological term to be cast about when convenient?

Ohhhh....are you sure?....I mean, certain beyond doubt?

Revelation 18:2 “ ‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’ She has become a dwelling for demons and a haunt for every impure spirit, a haunt for every unclean bird, a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal.....' Revelation 18:4 “ ‘Come out of her, my people,’ so that you will not share in...

These verses 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12 'And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays...

God is the determiner. Man's opinions carry no weight.

you miss the point mjrhealth!

2 Thessalonians 2:8-12 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power...

...and control and maim and subdue, and kill and lie and commit any evil if it justifies the ability to dominate.......and what's more, this is no secret!

Do we now take the weightiness of the implications, disarm them and drag it into the arena of 'nice'...hmmmm

I suppose we need to interpret 'cool' in this case as favouring gruesome deaths......a view with frightening implications.

What!...didn't you hear the last trump. Anyone who talks about the last trump has got to be christian. It goes without saying. Anyway, I could add to my convoluted humour but in the interest of sensitive souls, I think I'll wrap it up!

I wonder whether creatures like the T-Rex were not the result of genetic manipulation. Trying to reconcile how a loving God would create flesh tearing creatures of this ilk is something I cannot do.