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Now your just bearing false witness i said he died for everyone, I never said they will all be saved. i said only those who will believe will be saved, Then why are you still tossed to and fro and fail to comprehend the gospel?

I look at it like this Imagine yourself in the middle of the ocean, Your boat has sank, And even though you are not alone. All of you have no ability to save yourself. Then God sends someone to rescue you. But you have to allow them to rescue you and not reject their salvation. So now in...

Ah,, Like you? lol.. So we are hypocrites because of our faith in the power of God. ok.. whatever.. Again, You just keep proving me right every time you speak

Sorry bud they are justified by faith.. without faith in Jesus no one is justified but as many as have received him, to THEM he gave the right to become children of God. fail to receive him, You condemn yourself.

He did save his people from there sins. And you are bearing false witness. are you a false teacher that needs to resort to untruths?

Thats not what the word says John 3: but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds...

Did not know a question was a rebuttable. I thought we were discussing what the word says. But if you do not want to discuss the word. thats fine

You prove my point with every post I find it amazing you say God made you sinless of his power But he is not able to make you perfect forever, you have to do that yourself. Talk about double talk

He told them to stop their sin of adultry (against him) God would not tell them to do something they are unable to do.

The pharisee could quote the OT verbaitim yet they did not know how to enter. just reading does not mean you know..

Like I said. Real church study the word. and they preach it. letter by letter verse by verse. They do not (in my view) just pick certain sins and start judging people or call people out. God tells us how to come beside people who are struggling with sin. The legalistic church is a dead church...

And again. John said those who are now anti-Christ (renounce their faith) have never been of us.. or they never wo9uld have left.. While we all agree they will nto be in heaven, one of us believes he lost salvation. while the other believe he never had it. I belong to the second group

she does not understand what being born again means.. so

You would not ask him to leave. Who believes this stuff?

Your sealed with the spirit until the day of redemption. Sorry, But this is said three times by paul in three different passages.. We can not just ignore it because it does not fit our belief system

What amazes me, Is I bet he would say he was the tax collector and we were the pharisee.

Wrong on so many levels God is a God of love. The god you worship is not a god of Love..

No they are not. You can say it a million times, it is not true They are condemned because of unbelief. period.

Your wrong He died for everyone Whoever believes is not condemned Whoever does not believe is condemned already, because they have not believed Hell is filled with non believers..Because they did not believe, not because they sinned And hence we have the error of calvanism (fatalism) Jesus...

Well yeah But I still do not give men credit. God wrote the bible. God said his word would be preserved. I do praise men for Keeping Gods word pure. I praise God.