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  1. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    In my experience with pre-trib doctrine those who cling to it do so without examination of all scriptures that clearly oppose it. They cling to Pastors, Books, Churches and the Majority as justification and security. After all - why would so many Christians and 'Renown' Pastors and Bible...
  2. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    I have answered your questions - you refuse to accept the answers from scripture - where are the scriptures that CLEARLY show pre-trib rapture? They do not exist in the Bible - it is by adding too scripture what does not cleary state. Meanwhile all scripture is for our edification sothat the...
  3. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    What is the opening scene, the issue being presented to us today by looking through the life of the Christians in Thessolanica that the Apostle Paul addresses?
  4. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    You cannot get to Ch 2 wiithout first recieving, digesting and rejoicing Ch1. What is the opening scene presented to us from Ch 1
  5. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    READ 1 Thessalonians Chapter 1 - Please READ it - that is your foundation of Truth to understanding that which pertains to Christ's Return and the Rapture - our gathering together to Him - our being caught up to Him - AMEN AMEN AMEN
  6. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    How am I deriding you? I cannot tolerate willful religion that seeks to rob, blind and divide the Body of Christ. I have not derided you - I am helping you and you perceive it as an offense. You have been Born-Again by the Blood of Christ and the regeneration of His Holy Spirit - YES or No? If...
  7. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    If you reject the CLEAR passages of scripture and are UNWILLING to bow the knee of pride at the feet of Jesus and His Word - then you have a idol in your heart that you refuse to pull down. You admit you cannot see - that is your decision - it is not truth but your desire to believe something...
  8. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Randy, thank you for the encouragement.
  9. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Meditate on this passage of scripture, allow it to settle in and free your mind - 2 Timothy 2:15-19
  10. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Two things #1 this is not complicated - see my post below and #2 rapture ( caught up ) is in the bible. Pre-Trib rapture is NOT 1 Thess ch 1 obliterates pre-trib rapture as does Matt 24:29 as does 1 & 2 Thess as does I Cor ch 15 as does I John ch 2 as does Revelations
  11. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    This is not complicated - the Spirits of those who have died in Christ are with Christ now. He will bring them with Him on His Return. Upon His return the first thing Christ does is RESURRECT the Bodies of those who are His and with Him. 1 Thessalonians ch 4 Christ is the Firstborn...
  12. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    I also believe in the Hope of His Coming - the Resurrection of the Righteous at His Coming and the Rapture of His Elect at His Coming according to the Word of God. Jesus did not say He could come today - The context of a "Thief in the night" is subject, key word here 'subject', to ALL He taught...
  13. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    In case I missed this question: I say to you; how does it not? The Resurrection and the Rapture are inseparable. But this is how the error and deceit of pre-trib starts - by wrongly dividing the Word of God. Set your feet upon the Rock = Christ's Return & the Resurrection & the Rapture are...
  14. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    False - The return of the Lord is the main topic of the Book as well as the judgements and warnings - I mean like really? All pre-tribrs do the same thing - cover their eyes & ears to any scripture that exposes their idol, as well as add to and take away from scripture. WOW - Christ's return...
  15. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    The error of pre-trib will lead 'some' people to recieving the Mark - which will not be forgiven to those (Christian or not) who receive it. The other error of pre-trib is this: "No lie is of the truth" I John 2:21 It divides the body of Christ which God hates - Proverbs 6:16-19 It will be...
  16. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Christ's Atonement for us has paid in full our sins = past, present and future - AMEN I would not be here if it were not so....Thank You for that encouraging TRUE & Unmovable reminder of His Love for us
  17. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    I say AMEN to that Great Love of Christ whose Blood cleanses us from all sin - HE remains Faithful even when our faith fails!!!!
  18. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    I Thessalonians 4 and I Corinthians 15
  19. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    God has already told us who the Two Witnesses are in His Word. Yes, the Word has cleary identified them - not me or some religious teaching but from the Holy Scripture itself. I will not identify them since God's Word has already done so and so as not to open up the religious attacks. "Because...