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I agree with you. I can't go back and read what I said. Justification is solely a work of God. We are declared righteous....as if we'd never sinned. It's a legal declaration. The instrument is faith. Sanctification is being set apart. Same meaning as Holy. set apart to do the works of...

I was asking @ScottA I know that YOU know the difference. But it sure seems like many don't. They know justification OK but they don't know sanctification... But thanks. It's all good. Let me just add that the works of the law are the 613 rules and commandments that were give at the time...

The Law of Jesus DOES NOT include the law of Moses. No wonder you're all mixed up. The Law of Moses includes 613 rules and commandments. Some are from God and some are from man. Jesus abolished the civil law and the ceremonial law. THE MORAL LAW or 10 commandments was NOT abolished. Mathew 5:20...

The way I see it A,,,is like this. Abraham obeyed God and did what God told him to do from the get go. Genesis 12:1 Obeying God and doing what He says makes us right with God. Righteous. It's rather shocking to me that some of us have to battle to state that God Almighty, who created the...

NO ONE that I know on ANY FORUM believes works save us. Apparently there's a problem here : 1. What is the difference between Justification and Sanctification? 2. What are the Works of the Law and what are Works of Obedience of Faith? All Christians should know the difference. I've said...

Yes. Jesus said we can do nothing with our own strength. This is why He went away and sent the Holy Spirit. The biblical thing to say is this: 1. God has always expected obedience from man...from Adam and on. 2. Salvation is free of charge. Sanctification is not. It requires our DOING what...

That's how a new Christian would understand it. I think we should be careful what comes out of our mouth... Mathew 15:11 And also what we teach... James 3:1

I couldn't agree with you more about socialism. As to the appearance of evil....I don't think a big house is the appearance of evil. A poor person might think I have a big house....Or you. I'm good with it.

You mean: 1. You want me to obey God? 2. You want me to WORK! :eek:

NO! I've taught the covenants Lady C. We were NOT DISCUSSING the covenants... We were discussing whether or not it's NECESSARY TO OBEY GOD. Abraham OBEYED GOD when God told him to leave his home. He was right with God at this point. Read it again... Genesis 12:1

No Apak. I was already upset for reasons of this forum (not personal reasons) and I just lost control. You're always very nice and I appreciate your reply. Thanks.

For goodness sake. It's speaking about OUR WORKS. It's speaking about the foundation that Paul and Apollos laid.. and the workers that will come after them. Read it again please from verse 1.

@APAK I apologize.

My purpose has been my family and extended family (I think that's what it's called...aunts, cousins, etc.) Which turned out well except for a few that are controlled by the enemy. Do I care that God is unhappy with me right now? Of course. I'm too upset about what some believe about their...

Very good scripture. Guess we should heed it. :)

Any work you do after salvation is a work for God. Colossians....look for it.

Exactly so.....what? Did Abraham LEAVE HIS HOME when God told him to? DID HE OBEY GOD? IS THAT A WORK? Genesis 12:1

Right now He might not be. What's your point anyway?

Chill out. It would take a lot of chilling out after all the stuff I have to hear that IS WRONG. How many years of theology have YOU studied? Do YOU also read commentaries instead of the bible? Do YOU tell persons that what they believe is UNBIBLICAL when in actuality it is? WHO is to decide...

BTW, The HEART pumps blood through the body. That's ALL IT DOES.