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Sorry, but that is a gross departure from the biblical truth and reality that God is spirit and Jesus has joined the Father in that glory...which is not physical, not flesh and blood, but spiritual.

"We" may be appropriate for most of Christendom...but not for many who have received Him as having come again already. "The total prophetic picture" does not include a physical bodily return of Christ, except "Christ in us." Sorry that you did not perceive such a great theme as has been a major...

You add error to error. Now you wrongfully accuse me of "casual use", when you really have no clue. Nehemiah 13

One analogy at a time. I do not "believe" in bigfoot, because I have nothing to go on but rumor. You on the other hand have the world, the universe, the magic of life, an unending ribbon of witness testimonies spanning all of time adding their part in collaboration without complete knowledge of...

"Unanimity" means nothing. You could just as easily say the leaders in Israel were correct about Christ. If the consensus was wrong, it was wrong. No, Paul merely said he spoke of it before. But the fact that they were not clear about it and had to be reassured again, is proof that there was no...

So...since Christ has come [again] to millions [already], you are saying what exactly...that they do not have Him even now?

The "still future" stance, is like a man waiting for a bus in the middle of the route: Some are already on the bus, and like him, some are not.

It is good that you notice that an error exists, but to agree with the early church fathers is also an error. Paul was vague, for the simple reason that he himself gave: "For now we see in a mirror, dimly." And the early church fathers, even more dimly.

Okay... Time for a reality check and a clarification: Please do not misunderstand, I did not mean to suggest that I was exempt from the things I made reference to here in the Original Post. That would be an assumption, just as it would be an assumption to say "Ah ha!" to any person chosen by...

You judge and criticize and find fault while projecting and clearly being blind to every point of the OP, specifically the remnant in the midst of great tribulation, and thanks being to God. I held up a mirror...and look who's in it pointing fingers back at the reflection.

What you say is true...that is you are indeed on the offense, even on attack. And you completely missed the "remnant." Sounds like a complex.

You are referring to what I wrote in my book. Sure. The error of the early Christian church (although I did not name them in my book), became the onus of the Catholic Church, for they as much as brag about it. It is the error of coming to the fork in the road posed by Jesus, who ask, "Who do...

You accuse me, judge me, by taking what "I" said as pertaining to me how you see it, rather than the way I said it. That much is not about me, but about you. So defensive. Must be a reason.

Apak, That is all due to a misunderstanding, yes. But not that Jesus is not God, but rather that He is the Christ and Son. That distinction does not mean He is not God. It means that the acts of the Son as Christ, came forth from on high and were manifest in the lower regions we call the world...

You are digging a deeper hole. Mine was an observation, in which I included myself. State of the church.

You. I, on the other hand, include myself.

You error. It is not blaspheme to call upon God.

Who do you infer is the Pharisee and who is the publican?

I guess the heart gets broken, while the mind simply gets bent :) But you make a good point... It is human nature to have some leaning toward the rule and some to the spirit, and fewer to the spirit is normal and to be expected. It really saddens me to think that so many don't at least have...

I am not sure I know what a "Nihilist" is, so, No. "attempting to debate Absolute Truths with an Oracle I guess" Yes indeed. "Us rejected" Yes, true. "compliment" Thank you! "Imo this is a fab finishing school, I might even say unparalleled, and we should prolly be paying tuition!" LOL...