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Even in the face of the obvious, everything is worth a second look. The Hebrew Sanctuary system has much to teach us today regarding the plan of salvation. Dismissing it as a remnant of a past culture ensures critical information is missed and present information misinterpreted.

This is a little off track but in the light of your post above Backlit, I think sin has in itself the seeds of self destruction so in the final analysis I think sinners will destroy themselves. an aside....I don't think Jesus' death was a general non descriptive pool of death for others; rather...

Romans 8:19-23 For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the children of God; for the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and will...

own the other as a chattel.....control or curtail development as one who is growing in their own right......manipulate

He inspires faith, he encourages and maintains faith and brings it to fruition at his return. I would say that qualifies him as author and finisher of faith.

one can 'dominate' with scripture as well......pull the 'spiritual' card. It is equally oppressive!

how can it be H2S if on the one hand you are sorry yet on the other hand 'she lives a joyous care-free life in Heaven with her Heavenly Creator'?

are you overweight farouk?

of course there wouldn't be any on these boards with that disposition or those intentions!

Do you think it could mean they are emotionally disconnected?....they don't actually know what love means (experientially). The best explanation they can give is one derived from another persons explanation?

I find no issue with these texts but I can imagine that if either gender wants to dominate they would have an issue.

ohh WS, you have a soft heart!

this is a pleasing woman :- preoccupation with vanity is foreign.....she is frugal.....she says what she means and means what she says......she shoots straight......a smile is never far away and being trustworthy is a given......she has no hesitation to put her shoulder into whatever requires...

Those who know God (emphasis on 'know') have no issues with obedience. Those who know him not but have a religious spirit are desirous to modify, reinterpret or supplant whatever God deems as healthy and in so doing deny his creativite power.

the casting out of demons.....the stilling of a storm...internally or externally.

one of the things Paul lists is the lack of thankfulness (2 Tim 3:2) I think that's a big one.....protection from what we are unaware is going on around us in the world of the unseen.....and taking for granted what we often consider as ordinary when in fact they are present continuous blessings.

no surprise for this charge on this battleground.

my dear....with respect, I'd say get rid of the phallic symbol that's been wrapped in swaddling clothes (the tree) .....I'd also say we need to get rid of the self focus (the gift to ourselves wrapped as if it were a gift to Jesus) Oh how the pagan mindset has infiltrated God's unspeakable gift...

I'd say, don't shoot those who shoot you.....that'd be a good starting point!

Lota words here Ziggy..... You quoted '2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection,....' What do you think that means?