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While I agree on the difficulty of translation, I'm not buying the analysis. The Bible is renound for the quintessential standard of explicitness. God literally wrote the 10C into rock. I reject the idea that such a God also puts secrets in subtle ways. So, I don't read into the verse the...

I've read your confession of faith many times. The anti-cultists ignore it. I'm with you, sister!

I know. It's an absurd claim on many levels, not the least of which is Scripture as I already stated. Putting aside the distraction of the sex life of a 1st century, Jewish teenager, there is nothing in Scripture stating that Mary was sinless.

Agreed. And the truth is LDS consider themselves to be Christians who accept Christ as their lord and savior. That’s good enough for me. Why is it not good enough for you?

Not necessarily? There is nothing wrong with a wife having sex with her husband. ‘I did not look at the text until my car came to a complete and total stop.’ You want to take that to mean I never looked at the text?! Good grief.

Oy vey. Do you suppose LDS boast about earning their way into heaven AND that means they are not even Christians?

I hear you but my point is the claim that Mary belongs on this august list is not Biblical. And I deny she remained a virgin based on the Bible's wording "until" and reference to Jesus brothers and sisters.

Irrelevant. Other denominations teach faith + work. It doesn't make them non-Christian.

Odd how your Cultural Marxism reveals itself again. Are women equally capable of evil as men are? Are you able to answer a question without returning a question? The implication of your question is that BECAUSE women should not be punished, there might as well be open season on killing babies...

Agreed. Yet, history shows people over-rely on history as they have done exactly that and continue to do so. Evolution was abused to apply to human moral systems. And today Capital-S, Science, has become a near universal IDOL in being the code word used to bludgeon political opponents. The...

Yet, it breaks down at the quantum level. Hence, Physicists since the time of Einstein have searched for the Grand Unifying Theory or the Theory of Everything.

Math is real. Can one experience such abstract concepts?

No, not supplanted but built upon. Science - the study of - is built upon philosophy, of which metaphysics is 1st branch. The 2nd brach is epistemology and all science branches from this. The truth of this is seen in the fact that the highest level of educate is called a PhD, which is short for...

This reminds me that you never responded to my post about how math proves the existence of God. The question that Atheists cannot answer is why does the natural world obey mathematical laws?

Then you are not very observant. Humans are the only species that wear clothes or need to.

Again, I said I am open to punishment ideas. You?

LOL. Why are you giving dealers a pass but not the poor consumer needing a fix? I'm open to suggestions about punishments. You?

That's. wicked good rationalization. Either Mary is human and sinned or she is sinless and therefore, not human. The Bible seems to make an exception for the Son of God only. I don't know the authority of those who explained to you otherwise. So, there is that.

Appeal to Ignorance. Rather than shed light, you shed doubt on what we know. You do this based on a speculation; it could be different elsewhere.

I think the punishment should be for the dealer not the consumer.