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lol Do you ever listen to what people say? I have Gods riches.. By myself I am nothing.

I went to God. I have eternal life. I will be raised I will never hunger or thirst I have been Washed sanctified and justified. I am not trying to earn my way to heaven through religion Thats what you are doing,

Is this why you find it impossible to love God enough to come to him for salvation? That you think you can earn it with your righteous deeds?

Your self righteousness and your refusal to came to the cross is your own religion. I know the power of obedience. and I know where it comes from. But if you have not been justified freely by the cross. You can be obedient all you want. Your still dead in your sin.

Justification by works is a false gospel. The wage of sin is death, The gift of God is eternal life. You can;t earn a gift my friend. And you will never be sinless in this lifetime.. no matter how hard you try..

This is a false gospel. This is what I would call an illusion. that through you being obedient, you can have other sins forgiven. That is called justification by works.

Who is refusing to discuss it?

Oh I understand what you say and where it comes From lol it’s the biblical defenition. You just do not like it because it does not agree with your belief system. It destroys your belief system My hope is in God and his promises Your hope is in your church your history and your works. Who has...

Which is why we have lost our tolerance to listen to you. Define faith? Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word (scripture) Our hope is eternal life. Which God, who can not lie, promised before time began. and...

Prophecy is not shadow and symbolic. It must be literally translated Unless you learn to interpret it literally, you will never understand the meaning of prophecy. You are getting off topic and starting to attack based on foolishness.. This is how these topics get out of line, and...

I can see it I also see That God promised it to them forever. with NO specifications (you still have not shown me in Gen 12 15 and 17 where they are told they must behave or they would lose it) i also see that lev 26 fits right in with Joshua 23 And I understand the covenant promise, In you...

true Sadly, I think some think it is all a fantasy, a movie

The matrix?

The OT prophets speak of the fact that after Christ returns. He will rule from Jerusalem. But there will still be other nations.. Jerusalem will be the capitol city of the restored earth

One thing to remember is even alot of protestants hold to the same ole works based justification model of the catholic church. Just not as in depth..

The put to much faith in history,. that was written BY THEM then the actual word of God

ps. I have not even started to go over the many OT prophets who says she will repent and she will be restored..at a later date

I gave you an example a week ago. You blocked it off and silly I also showed you in Lev 26 that if they disobeyed. they would be defeated. their cities cut down, their high places destroyed. and a foreigner will enjoy her land. Until she repented. If it was done (as you say) there is no need...

God did not make the covenant in Joshua 23. If you are not willing to look at the covenant given to abraham. The you have no basis to say anyone else is wrong Joshua 23 is actually answered in Lev 26, Once again, EVEN after what Joshua said happened. God said if you repent, He will remember...

I showed you this in Lev 26, the final form of discipline I also showed you what would happen if they repented (they would be restored) It has not failed. But you just proved my point. It must still be in process and not nullified. Because God said forever. with no conditions. The conditions...