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Well said!!!! You will find that this reality is lost on many since it does not line up with the prime directive of self-justification. The OP is about a free ride without any responsibility. It is an eternal welfare system. This is so ironic since these welfare system advocates are usually...

By your own words....

You can't control your own salvation method. You are not the thief on the cross...you are you. You can't choose your own role by pointing to the easiest way you've read about. Have you also decided to die on a cross?

The OP is tilting at windmills...or..strawmen!! Paul was concerned for the Romans and Galatians because SOME the Jewish brethren were trying to get Christians who had begun in the Spirit to become Jews as they were and get circumcised in the flesh. These Jews could not fathom how God could make...

same here!!! :)

Following God is not like a science we can become expert in. I thought we were trying to defeat this type of reasoning in other threads. Yes, the saints led the righteous. This has always been and always will be. Then you would have to disagree with Paul who said that those who sought to...

God works through men...A man who does righteousness is deemed righteous. A man who does wickedness is deemed wicked. No science degree is required here.

But faith and faithfulness are not a technique. The actions change according to circumstances. It certainly does not mean we are saved by our beliefs. A parrot who is trained to always say 'Jesus' at every query is not more saved than any other parrot. Faith knows God already. We are saved NOW...

This is the destiny of the filthy...who lack righteousness...both Christians and Jews. We see this category throughout the bible...variously called the vessels of dishonour, those cast out into outer darkness, the rejected ones, saved as by fire, the wanderers. These are represented by the...

That's like saying ears +nose= throat

loneliness...rejection...injustice...are some of the pains we can feel in our souls.

I don't think Axehead means practicing as in getting really good at it! :unsure:

This thread is about the secret saving knowledge about Jesus (gnosis)

Yes!! It does not say....who do always err in their heart because they have not known the proper technique or doctrine.... His ways....what pleases Him... His desires and His will. His plan, His vision.....His life...His presence. ....in departing from the living God. God is a Person not a...

I think the problem is that men have made the gospel out to be man centered rather than God centered. How are we justified??? By pleasing God!!! Period. There is No...i repeat NO technique by which men are saved. Neither reciting a formula, neither circumcision, neither claiming a verse we...

I think the error happens when we try to apply God's way to ourselves. We take what is God centered and kingdom centered and make it man-centered. The same skewed understanding happens when we try to interpret the scriptures for ourselves. People will place themselves according to their...

Brother I don't know how much clearer anyone can put it than that . There is a phenomenon we deal with in regards to religious indoctrination. Indoctrination is a very difficult obstacle to overcome. Once the mind clasps onto an idea, especially if it is hypnotically repeated over and over...

Amen Hep!! We are called to be sober and awake and seek after God through the Spirit. We are to exhort one another daily to pursue the good fight of faith and either get into or remain in the Spirit. This is seeking the kingdom and His righteousness that we abide in close proximity to...

Lukewarmness is in the claiming of something one doesn't have. It is like the person who says I've done it but without having done anything. You are seeing every thing through a skewed perspective. You do not see how you are re-orienting scriptures to suit your views. You fail at every turn to...

John you are fast on the uptake!!! I think it's harder for older ones as we tend to get deeper in a rut over time. What is so important to see is the danger of being a Christian (as well as the more obvious benefits). I call this the peril of shalem (Perfection based on intimacy with God)...