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Hi Oz, No need to challenge me. @SovereignGrace doesn't seem to understand that there was a time when the bible was not written... A time when Jesus had not been born yet to reveal God's final plan of salvation to us... I was discussing Romans 1:19-20 and how men have always been aware of God...

Sounds like hate is in your heart and also that of @SovereignGrace .... Why is the word HATE always coming into your posts? God said to think on lovely things. Philippians 4:8 Because one dislikes a doctrine does not mean he hates those that espouse it. As far as I'm concerned, I like to post...

Are you aware of the fact that the bible did not always exist? Of the fact that not everyone in the world has heard of Jesus --- or God for that matter,,,,and yet they know the presence of God. Did the history of the world begin in the year 400 AD or so, when the bible was put together?

Kind of reminds one of Animal Farm (Orwell) doesn't it?

What did I say that makes you ask this?? I believe we are saved by faith only. Ephesians 2:8 By the grace of God, through the instrument of faith.

Right. We are saved through faith. And God does not impose His will on us. He leaves the choice to us based on Acceptance of His conditions: Believe and obey. I like Rev 3:20

Oh. You're here to change person's mind? I'd say that those who disagree with you are correct in their theology and perhaps YOU should study some more so that you could come to know and love the one true God. John 12:32 JESUS said...because He wants ALL to be saved: . 32And when I am lifted...

How do you explain Acts 16:30-31 30Then he brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, along with everyone in your household.” Or did Paul tell the jailer there was nothing he could do because it was up to...

Indeed. Romans 6:16 states clearly that we PRESENT OURSELVES to the one whom we will serve. Of our own free libertarian will.

When discussing biblical free will, what we're discussing is NOT philosophical freee will but libertarian free will. Man does have libertarian free will. Which is the ability to make a moral choice based on the fact that he could have made a different choice from the one made.

Also, calvinist theology removes from man the responsibility of sin. Since God predestinates everything.... God is responsible for sin. Then how can a JUST GOD make US responsible for something HE predestined? Yes. Calvinism makes no sense at all. John must not have known what he was saying...

@Pearl There seems to be a lot of into on this here: the shroud using pin hole photography - Google Search

Agreed. No ones faith should depend on this... It should depend on the resurrection and the teaching of the Apostles. It is interesting however. I've never paid too much attention to it...

It could. But there doesn't seem to be any other explanation. I'm much more convinced lately...not that I feel it helps to believe. Seems like nothing does...except faith.

I don't know what you mean by this. The first time it was photographed (forget the date) the pix came out as a positive...which means the cloth is a negative... Some have doubted this and attributed the shroud to be a forgery because negatives place everything in a pix on the opposite side...

So is Santa Clause what? Because Santa is not real, then we can assume that nothing is? Come on W.... Give a serious opinion.

It cannot be reproduced. The carbon dating was taken from a piece of the shroud that had been repaired in about 1200 or 1300 because it had been in a fire. There's no way to duplicate this cloth. And the image is only on the very top layer of cloth. This is impossible with paint or any known...

I hope you watch the video some day. It also teaches a lot about icons, spiritual art, etc. It really made me sit up and take notice. The way it was explained made me understand that it could not be duplicated.

Maybe because Calvin is to blame? The inquisition was also decided by the secular courts.... Did this excuse the Christians that used the inquisition? John Calvin presented evidence AGAINST Servetus. Without this evidence S would never have been burned at the stake. What Calvin did was to ask...

I was going to make this a poll, but there's really no way to be absolutely sure. I never gave much credence to the Shroud, but have been interested, as maybe some may be. After watching a talk on YouTube, I think I've become a believer... of the Shroud, I mean. I'll post the link but it's...