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I see you are still bouncing around like a pinball. Perhaps you should just take one thing at a time. And quit being cagey. If you have a name for people from scripture to make your point - spit it out.

So you said. Give me the scripture you claim to be quoting and I will show you the other scripture that you left out.

You made it about you when you spoke against me speaking the truth (which was not my truth, but God's). And it is obvious that you do so because you reject God's M.O. of speaking through some and not through all. So you complain to me instead of Him. But, not to worry. He hears all.

You quoted the scripture that agrees with you, and left out the one that disagrees with you. You have established only one thing: that you do not have the whole counsel of God.

But back to the original post question: The "falling away" is not a salvation question. That is putting the cart in front of the horse. Salvation is not the question, it's the answer...that is, it is the answer to the falling away...the answer to "the fall." So...when we read "Let no one...

Indeed, your induction of "Epignosis" offered nothing. Whether people or demons, the point is moot. But that was not the point. The point...is that the two above passages do not speak of God going back on His promise of salvation, but rather of men going back on actually receiving it. There are...

Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath perhaps.

You don't even know what you are saying. Do you mean matter? Apparently you do not know the truth of it. Both are energy. The fact that there are different types of energy, does not help your case. On the contrary, it shows your hand as lacking. Two half-truths, do not make one truth, but...

It means that the object of all parables is not the subject...not 95+, but 100%.

You should have quit while you were just wrong, rather than going on and on making a case for your own worldly existence while abusing God's choice of terms to reveal His nature, as if it were a word game. It's not.

No. The only "I am" of context here, is God and His eternal...which is not debatable. Whether you voice it or not, our opinion is not allowed. As for your claims, you very much indeed did challenge the Godly definition. And you have shown yourself wrong.

That is the difference between "believing" and "knowing." I can speak to beliefs, but I don't dabble in them. Truth is not debatable.

As long as you only quote half-truths...it's anything goes. But you have only deceived yourself.

This is not a matter of epignosis - even the demons have epignosis. No...this does not address what one has knowledge of, but whether or not one has actually laid down their life, as did Christ: once to die.

The point is, God has only sacrificed His Son once. But Paul addresses the truth or falsity of the heart of one who would go back, which was his way of saying that such a person was never right with God in the first place. Salvation is the act of laying down one's own life, after which it is no...

I purposely said it backwards to cause one to think. But the point is the same: What is eternal is eternal, and what is of the world is of the world. The point is, one cannot set there anchor and their beliefs in that which is not fixed, but subjective. No, that is not correct, and therefore you...

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And if any agree with the scriptures having come into the knowledge of the truth, even then there are naysayers.

@Doug Hebrews 10:26-27 and 2 Peter 2:20-22 refer to the fact that ones' true will becomes them, in which case the condemnation stands. It is not the course of time that defines ones' will, but ones' will that defines the course of time.

I have been busy. Being busy, I have also noticed that I have become weary of debating what is not debatable with many who would rather defend error than truth, as if God's truth was a matter of opinion. I do love it, but then again, I hate it, and a break now and then is probably for the best...