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God did indeed have a [good] reason and purpose for doing what He did. But mixed up language and interpretations does and has stifled the church's unity. But that is not a bad thing, like people perceive it - we are a coat of many colors (on purpose). So, what man had been doing for bad, God...

I quoted Jesus. You call it "lies." Nuff said.

Thank you. That is good...if it can just be taken to heart. I do hope that Catholics can consider that said "divisions", began at the passage sighted in the OP where Peter correctly answered who Jesus was/is. And if that was the moment of division, then examine just what the two paths of...

This is true. BUT. Not to be confused with "confusion", God IS the Author of "confounded" language...which is a major point of contention among the churches. Genesis 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

Here is what I was quoting from: Revelation 2-3:22 ...So...now you are calling me AND Jesus a liar. Like I said: Way to go. Good Job. You tell Him!

That is not the point, and why you fail at this stuff so miserably. The point is that Jesus' pick of churches was what was relevant - not what you pick. He was making a point - your point doesn't count. His point was, that 5 out of the 7 He chose to make his point (the majority) were not doing...

Then...you get an F in math...and you can still take it up with Jesus.

Thank God for Google! :)

Yes, this is God "all in all" at work in those who are "in Him."

Indeed, too much Christianese or Catholicese just gets in the way. Personally, I am not big on 'isms, etc. anyway, and have trouble understanding when someone calls me something I have never heard of - how strange that names have been coined for people unaware of their meaning.

Tell it to Jesus - it's His list, not mine. Good job. Way to go. You tell 'em!

Pay attention. The scriptural account is clear: Jesus established his church, and shortly after He left them in charge, 65% were not up to the task. So...your claim that the church fathers were to be listened to as if listening to Jesus...is 65% in error.

Man...have you got things mixed up... The claims you made, may or may not be the teachings of the church, it doesn't matter, wrong is wrong. And what you just quoted that Jesus said was before He refined His position shortly thereafter, to say that He was somewhat against 5 out of 7 of the...

Thank you. I should think that is love indeed.

Hmmm... I guess I don't know the lingo well enough to have understood all that he was saying. Anyway, he seems to have a heart for peace. Perhaps we can lay down the lingo and come to an understanding. I should hope.

Meaning...that you don't know the whole of the conversation. Stop your hateful backbiting and go back to the beginning of the thread.

Li, welcome and God bless you. These things are easily misunderstood by men. But understand that "God is spirit" and Jesus the Son, "God with us" has already given up His life in the flesh. He will do it again, but not as men perceive. It was the apostle Paul who, after Christ laid down His...

Yeah, so much for extending an olive branch. :(

As I said, I was on topic. It was BOL who went off topic with his false purgatory claims. I called him on it. Now you accuse me of doing what you yourself are doing. That is the reason we can't have a civilized discussion. On the contrary, if you will go back and note my original comments, they...

You derailed my conversation with BOL without knowing what we were talking about. Now you are doing it again. Purgatory was sighted by BOL with a bunch of scriptures that had nothing to do with it. The point was, his anti-anti-Catholic bashing was his own making by his own ill practices. Now...