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So, you just completely ignore that He said "Elijah has already come"? It's typical of you to cherry pick the parts of scripture that you think support your false doctrine while ignoring the rest, but that's not how this is supposed to work. That's how cults interpret scripture. We know Jesus...

You're not even trying to see my point. Slow down and read what I'm saying carefully. I know you can do it. I know they believe the rapture occurs before the resurrection at the second coming, but I thought you were saying that they believe no resurrection at all occurs before the rapture, but...

They don't claim that no resurrection occurs when the rapture occurs. Where are you coming up with that? Just like pretty much everyone here believes, they believe the dead in Christ are resurrected and then caught up with those who are alive and remain to meet the Lord in the air. that is not...

What is wrong with you? Nothing I said deserved this ridiculous response. I'm not defending pre-trib in case that's what you think. I'm just saying that they have the dead in Christ being resurrected and then raptured (caught up) right after that, but their timing of that event is way off. They...

Yes, I know that. That's why it's called "pre-trib". They see the rapture and His second coming as two different events, which, of course, is total nonsense. You think I don't know what pre-tribs believe? Of course I do. You're not understanding me. They do believe that the dead in Christ will...

Agree. But, I'm pretty sure I would get a better response from the wall.

Are you sure that is what they say? Why would they do that? How can the dead in Christ be raptured before being resurrected first? The word rapture itself refers to being caught up to meet the Lord in the air. I've never seen a pre-tribber claim that the rapture occurs before the resurrection of...

LOL. This is ridiculous. Jesus was very obviously talking about the temple buildings standing at that time, not some future temple, since that is what the disciples were talking about when they were telling Jesus to look at the temple buildings standing at that time. He said the temple...

No, He said that He already came. Are you not able to read? Matthew 17:11 Jesus replied, “To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. 12 But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man...

Not really following you here. How can the land of Israel be eternal if it's burned up?

There is such thing no matter what nonsense you say. I guess Romans 9:6-8, Ephesians 2:11-22 and the following passage are not in your Bible. Galatians 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to...

Just shut up already, Jack. I'm not talking about being part of national Israel, so I'm not stealing anything. You clearly have nothing of substance to share here.

Somehow, that doesn't seem like how Jesus would talk to those He considers to be His chosen people, but maybe it's just me? I'm pretty sure He said His sheep are those who follow Him and not those who don't follow Him, but maybe my memory is fuzzy?

Great response. Your arguments are so convincing. Nice job, Jack. Very impressive, buddy.

Your lies do nothing but expose you as a liar. I do not hate Israel. I love all people. I simply don't count Christ rejecters among God's people because scripture doesn't. I hope those in Israel who reject Christ will repent and become children of God. Until then, they are children of Satan.

I'm not a national Israelite, but I am a Spiritual Israelite. Learn the difference. Here, I'll show you the difference. Romans 9: It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s...

The concept of Spiritual Israel is there in scripture and I have shown you that. You ignore it. Have you found the words "trinity" or "rapture" in the Bible yet? If not, then I guess there is no trinity and will be no rapture? And I do not hate Israel. Your slander does nothing but expose that...

No, he was not denying that he was the Elijah to come. You are adding that to the text. He was only denying that he was Elijah himself. So ironic for you to say "Context is king" when I showed you multiple scriptures where the context indicates that John the Baptist was the Elijah to come. Jesus...

No, not at all. I'm just waiting for you to actually make an argument using scripture instead of just making useless comments over and over again. Do you think you're capable of that? God bless all people in all nations!

Ridiculous comment once again from you. Do you have nothing else to offer? Do you believe that God is a trinity? Do you find the word "trinity" anywhere in the Bible? Do you believe there will be a rapture? Do you find the word "rapture" anywhere in the Bible? If you ever decide to make a valid...