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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    The Jews. That's why it says salvation is of the Jews. So? Did Jesus come to die only for the Jews? Of course not. So, what is your point? Jesus said He also had other sheep that He would include in His "one flock", which obviously referred to the Gentiles. It wouldn't surprise me if you can't...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Absolutely false. I don't deny that Paul talks about national Israel in Romans 9:1-5, but then he explains in verses 6 to 8 that it's those who are the spiritual seed of Abraham who are counted in the Spiritual Israel of God which are those who are the children of God and of the promise. He...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Who are "we" that call it that? Looks like it's just you calling it that. Let's put this false claim to the test, shall we? We shall. Here are some literal passages. Do you take them literally? Let's find out. John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    So, is the trinity a myth since the word trinity isn't in the Bible? Is the rapture a myth since that word rapture isn't in the Bible? The concept of Spiritual Israel is certainly there in the Bible, as the following passages show: Romans 9:6-8 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The 42 months is a “sign” of time.

    You know that Jesus said the temple buildings standing at that time would be destroyed, right? That is the last thing He was recorded as saying before the Olivet Discourse. The disciples naturally would have wanted to know more about that since the temple was a huge deal to them. So, one of the...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    No, I'm sure I did not miss the point at all. You just don't like how I am refuting what you said. Which Israel was he talking about, though? How do you interpret this passage: Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    There is no relation between the time periods of Revelation and the 70th week of Daniel 9:24-27. You are trying to relate unrelated scriptures.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Grow up. No one here is saying they hate Israel. Do you think the secular, Christ-rejecting Israel of today can do no wrong? If so, you are blind.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    LOL. You can't get any more delusional than to think anyone but Jesus can fulfill the 70th week. Only He could make reconciliation for iniquity, make an end of sins, finish the transgression ("It is finished"), bring in everlasting righteousness, etc. and He accomplished that on the cross. Your...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    The prophecy itself gives absolutely no indication whatsoever that there would be any gaps between any of the 70 weeks. I can't see that because it's not there.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Yep, you believe in 3 comings of Christ. And you think that should be taken seriously? It can't. Scripture says He is coming from heaven again once, not twice. It says "he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him" (Hebrews 9:28) and that...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I didn't say it's not talking about the rapture. You need to read it again in context. Do you ignore what is written just before that? That passage is about the coming of the Son of man. Jesus said the coming of the Son of man and gathering of the elect occurs "immediately AFTER the tribulation...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    No, I mean the ability to discern when something is literal, symbolic, poetic, Apocalyptic, hyperbolic, etc. My amil doctrine is primarily based on clear, straightforward scripture that you premils deny, so you have no idea of what you're talking about, as always. John 5:28-29 says there is...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    When did I ever say there was any danger in that? I never have. Send you to hell for that? I've never said anything like that. Are you paranoid?
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Why can't you understand that when He said to watch He wasn't just saying to look up in the sky and watch for Him, but to watch for signs of His soon return and watch that you're not deceived?
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Yeah, that's what I thought. I've never seen you express a belief in an individual Antichrist or anything like that before.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Jesus is talking about His second coming in that passage you quoted. The coming of the Son of man. When did Jesus Himself say that would happen? Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    There is no basis whatsoever to insert a large gap between the 69th and 70th weeks. Anyone who does so clearly is just making scripture say what they want it to say. The six things listed in Daniel 9:24 could not be fulfilled without the sacrifice of Christ and it says the Messiah would be cut...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Of course it is. What else is built upon believers with the cornerstone of Jesus Christ except for the church? Because you have no spiritual discernment. I find pretty much everything you say to be neither Biblical or factual. Which is not surprising coming from someone who denies the deity of...