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  1. GodsGrace

    Do Not Use the Word FATHER??

    You are allowed to disagree... BUT...the cc also is allowed to call their clerics Father, based on how they understand the reasoning behind this. They believe a priest has the responsibility to his congregation as does a father to a family. He is the head of the congregation and Jesus is the...
  2. GodsGrace

    Books Outside the Bible

    Hi BR, We usually agree on doctrine and I hate to be put in the position of defending the cc, others here should be doing this...however, I have read canon 3 of the Lateran Council IV in both English and Italian which is closer to the Latin, and I really don't understand "exterminate" to mean...
  3. GodsGrace

    A word for the moderators of a different message board.

    I like this site very much precisely because it's not moderated to death. Grown ups should be able to control THEMSELVES, without too much interference. Maybe some things are deleted because they're insulting or go against the TOS? I don't know enough about this. Many twist scripture around...
  4. GodsGrace

    Books Outside the Bible

    My jets are kool ! :cool: Good night...
  5. GodsGrace

    Books Outside the Bible

    You want I should say one is better because it didn't last as long or kill as many? No, Mary...I'm not going to do that. BOTH were wrong. BOTH did not practice their Christianity.f In the case of P. it was men here and there and some leaders that led the way. In the case of the cc, it was...
  6. GodsGrace

    Books Outside the Bible

    Hi Historical Mary, I looked over what you linked. Here's what I'll say: Nothing there I didn't already know....I DO really dislike Calvinism, BTW. All true. I think I said somewhere that Protestants have also been inhumane. I don't need help in believing that J. Calvin was not a very nice...
  7. GodsGrace

    Books Outside the Bible

    No where! Because I don't hate the cc. Very far from it! I very much agree with that church on many things, including liturgies, and I tell everyone to read the first 100 (about) paragraphs of the CCC. And if I DO disagree with some doctrine, I'm still very respectful of it because I know the...
  8. GodsGrace

    Books Outside the Bible

    Kindergarten class is out.
  9. GodsGrace

    IS JESUS' SACRIFICE ETERNAL?

    bb, you're very good at saying what you DON'T believe... how about explaining what you DO believe? What happens to us after we die?
  10. GodsGrace

    Books Outside the Bible

    NO sir,,,you don't understand. Anyone reading along KNOWS you've called me a liar many times. What I've asked from YOU is to show me a statement I've made about Catholic doctrine that is wrong. You won't be able to.... Still waiting....
  11. GodsGrace

    Books Outside the Bible

    How could the inquisitions be Protestant if Protestantism didn't even exist until the 1,500's?? It IS associated with catholicism and the Pope. The Inquisition was a group of institutions within the government system of the Catholic Church whose aim was to combat public heresy committed by...
  12. GodsGrace

    Do Not Use the Word FATHER??

    I agree that we are vessels for the master's use,,,I also find that I've learned much theology from other humans --- things I never would have known. Not everything can be gleaned from reading the bible... Some concepts run deep and we need help of those that know more than we do.
  13. GodsGrace

    Do Not Use the Word FATHER??

    When Jesus said that we must be born from above to see the Kingdom of God, He meant spiritually --- how could it be otherwise? If THIS is the physical Kingdom of God, now, I'm very disappointed! Priests are called Father because they feel that their congregation is like their children that...
  14. GodsGrace

    Books Outside the Bible

    Thanks for that PW. I don't hate the CC,,,many do because they've had a bad experience or because their Church might enforce that it's not Christian, or any other reason. I also happen to know the doctrines well and have challenged @BreadOfLife to find just one incorrect statement I've made...
  15. GodsGrace

    Do Not Use the Word FATHER??

    Not if I had a position of respect. For instance, in Acts 7 Stephen refers to Abraham as "our Father" and Paul refers to Isaac as "our Father Isaac". Romans 9:10 I'd also like to consider Mathew 28:10 for the word "leader" or "instructor" or "teacher". Did Jesus not tell the Apostles to go...
  16. GodsGrace

    Do Not Use the Word FATHER??

    I believe you're right, but could you explain more?
  17. GodsGrace

    Do Not Use the Word FATHER??

    Thanks for the last paragraph. I don't bother with pre-trib, post-trib and all that stuff. All I know is that Jesus is coming back one time at the end of EVERYTHING, and that this world has been going through tribulation from the beginning. As to hyperbole, yes, that could be. John also...
  18. GodsGrace

    Do Not Use the Word FATHER??

    Paul himself said that HE was a father to his children... see post no. 8 So should we abolish the title of Rabbi and Leader?
  19. GodsGrace

    Do Not Use the Word FATHER??

    Agreed. It just seems like just one more thing not to like and to take objection to. What you've stated above is very important...I'd also bring your attention to: 1 Corinthians 4:14-15 14 I do not write these things to shame you, but to admonish you as my beloved children. 15For if you were...