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  1. Davy

    Understanding The 144,000

    Jesus comes on the 6th Seal, 7th Trumpet, and 7th Vial. All of those events line up to the same time, the time when His wrath is poured out upon the wicked, and they seek to hide from Him. What you don't understand is that the 'wrath' Paul spoke of is about His final wrath on the last day when...
  2. Davy

    Understanding The 144,000

    That's right, and a post-trib coming is the only timing written in God's Word for the return of our Lord Jesus to gather His Church, even by Apostle Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2. The Pre-trib Rapture theorists have to manipulate and massage Bible Scripture to 'try' and make it point to Christ's...
  3. Davy

    Understanding The 144,000

    That question really doesn't make sense, since the Church will go through the coming "great tribulation", and gathered by Christ at the end of it, as written in Matthew 24 and Mark 13, which aligns with 1 Thessalonians 4. That doesn't make sense either, since the Signs Lord Jesus gave in...
  4. Davy

    When one is deceived, does that make him a sinner?

    If someone kidnapped one of your family, and commanded that you kill someone or they would kill your relative, would you do it? Would you still be committing a sin if you agreed to kill?
  5. Davy

    When one is deceived, does that make him a sinner?

    Apostle Paul explained in Romans that there is such a thing as sin in ignorance. So it's still sin, even done unknowingly that it's a sin. The reward of sin is death, so it still applies, however, God's Word points to the spirit-soul of a sinner not being destroyed unless first being...
  6. Davy

    A Closer Look at the Genesis Creation Account

    The Bible student will never understand about the event of Satan's original rebellion against God without understanding that there was a previous world prior to Adam and Eve which God destroyed using waters of a flood. The Hebrew in Genesis 1:2 that the earth 'was'..., actually means the earth...
  7. Davy

    Understanding The Great Trib

    Ever read Hal Lindsay's books, like The Late Great Planet Earth? What about Tim LaHaye's Left Behind series? One of the main features in those works is about the "great tribulation" time that Lord Jesus foretold His Church about. Famines, earthquakes, wars, etc., are stressed as a sign that the...
  8. Davy

    Understanding The 144,000

    I am cautious, and I'm very serious with what I say. That's why many here have a hard time understanding me, because I don't play Churchianity. You apparently don't understand that our Heavenly Father showed in His prophets that He is 'using'... Satan as a punishing rod upon the rebellious. The...
  9. Davy

    All Israel Will Be Saved

    I did answer that. You must have skipped over it... I said in that earlier post: "This you can count on: by the time the "great tribulation" starts, each person will already be divided to one side or the other, and will remain in their belief to the day of Jesus' return." That means, the...
  10. Davy

    Understanding The 144,000

    I have no problem saying it's from the devil. It's a setup by another spirit, and that's exactly what John Darby discovered in 1830's Britain when he attended the Edward Irving Church (Irvingite movement). Darby later questioned the manifestations going on there. Yet he continued to push the...
  11. Davy

    What is being pointed to in the following scfriptures?

    I showed you the simple Scripture, you reject those Scriptures. So your confusion is your own doing.
  12. Davy

    Understanding The 144,000

    Well, sorry, but yes it does mean literally... after... the great tribulation. Lord Jesus made that very plain in His Olivet discourse that that is when He comes to gather His saints. He also made that plain with a warning on the 6th vial in Revelation 16, telling the Church to keep their...
  13. Davy

    Understanding The 144,000

    If you don't believe in man's Pre-trib Rapture theory, good. But the idea of 'tribulation saints' is exactly... what you were describing. And that's one of their... ideas, because they have to try and account for Scripture that clearly shows there's believers on Jesus going through the great...
  14. Davy

    Understanding The 144,000

    None of that explains the Genesis 48 prophecy that Ephraim's seed was to become "a multitude of nations", and Genesis 35 that Jacob's seed was to become "a company of nations."
  15. Davy

    War in heaven

    Both the "prince of Tyre" and "king of Tyre" in Ezekiel 28 are metaphorical references to Satan. Satan and his angels right now still have access in the heavenly abode, but not after that war of Revelation 12:7-9. The following phrase in red tells us this... Rev 12:7-8 7 And there was war in...
  16. Davy

    Nation born in a day in 1948?

    Saul, (later called Apostle Paul), originally rejected Lord Jesus Christ. Are you hinting then, like @Bob Estey on this forum, that Paul's Epistles should be taken with a grain of salt, because Paul wasn't perfect like Christ.
  17. Davy

    Paul

    And I think you are a great doubter. So there's not much about The Bible from you that I would heed. That's why you are now on my IGNORE LIST.
  18. Davy

    Paul

    Then you're saying God's Word is not inspired, and it shows you have 'doubts' about the Witness of The Gospel from Christ's Apostles, of which Paul was one, yet a later one which Jesus chose also.
  19. Davy

    Understanding The 144,000

    Ain't no pre-trib rapture, so you can forget asking me to agree to that false doctrine of the devil. And that is what you are trying to prod me about, with that fake "tribulation saints" idea from the Pre-trib Rapture theorists of men. This you can count on: by the time the "great tribulation"...
  20. Davy

    Understanding The 144,000

    You need to look at Scripture again... and be careful of listening to men's traditions... Gen 35:10-11 10 And God said unto him, "Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel." 11 And God said unto him, "I am God...