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  1. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    You can say "bless you" after all that? Please don't send me any blessings Apak. You suppose someone is saved while they're sowing their wild oats? You don't know God very well then, do you? You know nothing about me so don't speak to me as if you do. Your entire post is one big insult. I...
  2. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    I posted the entire scripture I was speaking about. I'll post it again: Hebrews 6:1-6 1Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2of instruction about washings...
  3. GodsGrace

    To hell with me

    Carnal means flesh...carne in the romance languages. Flesh means the sin nature. The natural man has the sin nature and does not have the spirit living within him...so it's difficult for him to understand spiritual matters. Romans 8:5 Galatians 5:19-21
  4. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    Hebrews 6:1-6 1Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2of instruction about washings and laying on of hands, and the resurrection of the dead and eternal...
  5. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    I'm afraid you're going to have to take it up with Jesus since HE told the parable to teach us many things....It's my favorite in the entire N.T. Luke 15:24 Jesus said: 24for this son of mine was dead and has come to life again; he was lost and has been found.’ And they began to celebrate...
  6. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    On a phone, can't write now. Believers can return to God anytime after they've fallen away. The Prodigal Son,,,Luke. These believers wanted to return to the LAW for salvation. A slap in the face to Jesus.
  7. GodsGrace

    The Problem With The Trinity

    Two lines but they say a lot. Good point. The Jews understood what Jesus was saying. They had no doubt. In His hometown of Nazareth, Jesus read the O.T. scroll one Sabbath and this is what He read: Luke 4:18 18“THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME, BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH...
  8. GodsGrace

    The Problem With The Trinity

    How'd you do that! I know what you believe GP. You believe the spirit is the spirit of God, as stated many times in the O.T.,,, not a separate person. But what if that spirit BECAME a separate person? Also, you believe Jesus is the Messiah, the Christ, the annointed One, the Son of God, the...
  9. GodsGrace

    The Problem With The Trinity

    Can't remember if I've answered this... I DO believe it's important to understand who Jesus is. "And who do YOU say that I am?"
  10. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    The above is 100% correct.
  11. GodsGrace

    The Problem With The Trinity

    Oh. I don't know. I thought I said that it sounds good to me. Is it modulism or something? I really don't care. The Godhead or Trinity is difficult to understand so however one could understand it is fine with me.
  12. GodsGrace

    what's the point anymore

    Hey MM Begotten does not mean created. It means unique. The other thing I'd like to say is that only God knows who is saved and who is not. Although I don't agree with JW's, I do respect how they live and how nice they are. I never would tell one of them they're not saved... We talk to each...
  13. GodsGrace

    The Problem With The Trinity

    I understand this...but do you mean in many ways or in 3 ways? I believe they're co-equal but I have learned that they are separate in personality and in the work they do and in attributes...but at the same time they are all one. Your way is easier to understand, and, quite frankly, I don't...
  14. GodsGrace

    The Problem With The Trinity

    I know someone that knows both Hebrew and Greek (koine). The question is if the statements can be found in the original language...probably yes. Will be doing this in a few days. Checking it out, I mean.
  15. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    I do want to say that I believe in eternal security in the sense that if we remain in Christ we are saved. I don't believe sinning makes us lose our salvation...I believe abandoning God causes us to lose our salvation...IOW, not remaining in the Kingdom. I also don't believe in the shot gun...
  16. GodsGrace

    The Problem With The Trinity

    bb, if we truly understood Jesus WE ARE all elohim carrying our own crosses. We are to be enveloped by God and become aware of Him at all times and enter into HIS world and Kingdom. This is a concept not easy to get across but I do believe you understand it. We're not supposed to be on the...
  17. GodsGrace

    The Problem With The Trinity

    That's more clear. Yes. It's not easy talking about this,,,but you did a great job of it.
  18. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    Thank you God for agape love! I forgive you --- just don't ever do this again!
  19. GodsGrace

    To hell with me

    Just saw this. It also teaches that we each have our own relationship with God. Some live with God for 40 years, some come to Him late in life and live with Him only 5 years, or even a few months or even a few moments. We are not to envy that person. We are each to concentrate on our own...
  20. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    I'll reply with 20 of my own,,,but, as you've stated, I always comment on verses persons post instead of just shooting mine back at them. I believe we have free will as stated in Deuteronomy and Joshua and Philemon and many other times in the N.T., for example when Jesus cried over Jerusalem...