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  1. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    We NEVER went through the covenants,,,there is no scripture for scripture, although scripture is involved,,,,the covenants are studied outside of the bible. You should study them sometime, at least 8 of the most important ones...it would greatly help to understand the entire Old and New...
  2. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    Right! But that's all. Man has NO PART in what God wanted to do in the New Covenant. We only have to BE IN IT! The Covenant is already established when we join it. Plus, the question was really for @gadar perets because he said man does have a part in it.
  3. GodsGrace

    Are We Required to Tithe?

    Well, we have bills to pay and others to help out. But I do feel like I should be giving more.
  4. GodsGrace

    Are We Required to Tithe?

    What should we read??
  5. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    Is this for me? We all forgive you for the 4,000 mistake--I didn't think you meant the laws but had to bring it up so you could fix it. BUT, you can't just reply that Jesus fulfilled everything. We all know that. What you have to do is prove that Stranger is right and I'm wrong. You have...
  6. GodsGrace

    Are We Required to Tithe?

    I went to a church many years ago whose pastor was changed with stealing the intake. He worked on a salary basis and was given the parsonage as a nice home. Guess it wasn't enough for him..and most persons there tithed.
  7. GodsGrace

    Are We Required to Tithe?

    LOL I CAN'T give it all away! Can you??
  8. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    I WILL NOT move from my position because it's not CHOSEN by me... It's what the N.T. says. @Stranger did not correctly explain the difference between the Old and New Covenants. I never said I could "keep" all the commandments in the way that you mean. There were not 4,000 commandments...there...
  9. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    What part does man have in the New Covenant in order for it to function?
  10. GodsGrace

    You Know You're Getting Old When...

    Right. And if the other person is our age, they can't remember either! So you just change the subject!
  11. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    It could be understood like this: God PROMISED to Himself that He would keep the Covenant...and OF COURSE He would! God does not lie. But the Covenant was with man, although it did not require man's cooperation. The Abrahamic Covenant is a uni-lateral covenant made by God WITH man but He was...
  12. GodsGrace

    Are We Required to Tithe?

    Actually, this is what I thought. Presents is one thing. Helping to support a family is another thing. Some of us could help others. and some of us help our families. It's difficult to do both...this was my only point.
  13. GodsGrace

    Are We Required to Tithe?

    Is this what you had in mind? 1 Corinthians 9:3-18 3My defense to those who examine me is this: 4Do we not have a right to eat and drink? 5Do we not have a right to take along a believing wife, even as the rest of the apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas? 6Or do only Barnabas...
  14. GodsGrace

    Are We Required to Tithe?

    P.S. As to your questions: 1. Hardly any. All I hear is Love,,,but hardly ever HOW to love. 2. ??? This is my problem. 3. No. Because it gives the government the opportunity to make laws regarding churches AND their income. Churches should be totally separate from govt.
  15. GodsGrace

    Are We Required to Tithe?

    It was when I was reading and studying the book of Ruth that I learned of gleaning and the threashing floor, etc. Ruth teaches a lot about culture in her time. Those threashing were to leave a part of the grain on the threshing floor so that the poor could pick it up and use it for food or they...
  16. GodsGrace

    Are We Required to Tithe?

    I feel that a church could help out but cannot sustain the poor. It takes a lot of money to sustain and not only HELP. Persons have a lot of expenses: rent/mortgage, food, clothing, electric, heating, taxes!, etc. I DO feel that churches should help, I just don't know how much they help. If I...
  17. GodsGrace

    Are We Required to Tithe?

    Don't Gentiles have to keep the Law? What is the law, BTW?
  18. GodsGrace

    Are We Required to Tithe?

    What is "the appearing"?
  19. GodsGrace

    Are We Required to Tithe?

    I don't really know what you mean. Explain?