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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Obviously, I wasn't sure how long you think it is based on what I said. How long do you think it is then? And why did Paul not mention it anywhere within 1 Thess 4:14-5:3? Why does he not mention it anywhere in his writings at all? I would think if such a time period were going to happen he...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    What is that understanding based on? LOL! I understand what I'm reading in scripture just fine, but you are sometimes hard to follow. You are just bad at communicating clearly on forums like this, which you have admitted before. You said you are better at communicating verbally. So, don't try...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    In your doctrine you believe a period of tribulation (7 years? 1 year? Not sure.) that occurs between what is described in 1 Thess 4:14-17 and what is describe in 1 Thess 5:2-3. Why wouldn't Paul have mentioned that within a passage where he was giving details about the second coming of Christ...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Nothing new there. You have always had trouble being clear. Nothing new there, either. And, nothing new here. Do you suppose this will ever change when you consider that you have been debating us about this for probably at least 20 years? I don't think it ever will. We just don't think alike...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    So, you do agree that all unbelievers will be killed when Jesus returns just as all unbelievers were killed in the flood. How do you figure that any mortals will populate the earth after that for a thousand years then? No one will repent after Jesus comes. That's a lie from hell. It will be too...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Nonsense. Can you show me this order of resurrections that you believe in here in this passage where Paul gave the order of resurrections? 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    LOL! Of course not, silly! Do you actually think I would answer yes to your goofy question? What I'm saying is that God had a great surprise in mind that He will give them far more than just that. Abraham was in that promised land and considered it to be "a strange country" (Hebrews 11:9). He...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    No, no, no. No! You are taking Luke 21:36 COMPLETELY out of context! What is described in verses 20-24a already happened in Jerusalem and Judea in 70 AD, so we know He was not referring to escaping those things. We know that wars and rumors of wars and earthquakes and such have happened since...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Definitely. That's quite obvious. If your posts are too long for them to read then how do they read the Bible? Do they just read one or two verses at a time and then lose focus and move on to doing something else? I just don't get it. I think they are just trying to find an excuse for why they...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Are you just pretending to not know what he believes? Surely, you know what he believes by now after talking to him about this topic for many years? He's obviously saying, as we amils always say, that the rapture will occur, and then Jesus will proceed to destroy all of His enemies just as...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Total nonsense. That verse is not referring to the length of the day of the Lord as you falsely imagine. It just refers to the fact that no one knows the day or hour of His return (Matt 24:36, Matt 25:13). There's no particular times and seasons he could point to that would indicate the day or...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Right. It is seemingly impossible to engage in an honest, in depth discussion with them. Whenever we try to do that they get angry and protest and come up with some excuse why they don't want to do it. We know the real reason why they don't want to do it.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    You are SKIPPING taking the time to address that all unbelievers were killed by the flood and that Jesus said it will be like that when He comes. Do you believe that all unbelievers will be killed after Jesus comes and believers are raptured? If not, then you are not accepting what Jesus taught...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    No, it's not described in that passage. So what? Not every passage that refers to the second coming contains every detail related to it. Do you understand that? In Matthew 25:31-46 it portrays all people being judged with those who are saved inheriting "life eternal" in the kingdom prepared for...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    A few shall be left

    Jesus isn't coming to steal, but scripture repeatedly says He is coming to destroy His enemies. Are you uncomfortable with that? 2 Thess 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    LOL. You dismantled NOTHING. Your arguments are EXTREMELY WEAK. Unable to respond to your weak arguments? Please stop being so delusional.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Exactly. We have practically begged pre-tribs to actually exegete scripture and discuss it in detail and they always refuse to do so. And the reason is because they know they cannot defend their doctrine when we actually look at scripture closely and actually look at the context.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    LOL! You are hilarious. Accusing him of hiding from your weak arguments is the biggest joke I've ever seen. All you are able to do is misrepresent our view by falsely saying that we believe the church will experience God's wrath and nonsense like that rather than actually addressing our view.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Why do you keep misrepresenting my view? That does nothing but make you look dishonest and make it look like you can't support your own view, so you have to resort to misrepresenting my view instead. My doctrine does NOT have the church on earth during the wrath that Paul said we are not...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    A few shall be left

    That's not true, but it's your choice what to believe. Just ask God for wisdom about all this (James 1:5-7). That's the key to understanding. I do not believe in an individual antichrist, either, so that is not an Amil belief. That's something that dispensationalists typically believe. Not...